[TR] Fw: Triumphs Digest TR6 oil Filter

JOSEPH MATO joemato at sbcglobal.net
Wed Jul 1 12:39:56 MDT 2020

I have been reading the list for years without realizing what changing an oil filter involves. Apparently it can be done, it's just not easy. Once you realize the canister won't come out you can jimmy things around to make it happen. The engine compartment doesn't give you clearance to do much but you can pull on the steering column for movement and face the hole down to drain, clean, and replace the filter. I used some grease to hold the seal in and cleaned out the slot beforehand. Thanks to everyone who wrote about this. Joe Mato TR-6, Tr-3
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  1. Re: Manual gearbox with J type OD (John Macartney)
  2. Original side curtain frames needed (David Friedlander)
  3. Re: 49 triumph razorback (Frank Fisher)


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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 19:04:32 +0100
From: "John Macartney" <john.macartney at ukpips.org.uk>
To: "'Sujit Roy'" <triumphstag at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [TR] Manual gearbox with J type OD
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Hi, Sujit


In answer to your query, very likely. I never got really close to engineering variances because I was in Export Sales but part of the job was to study and remember all the Engineering Change Bulletins and Service campaign changes. It makes sense to have an engine plate that would cover both engines and especially for Stag. What many people don?t know is that the Stag was originally going to have the TR6 2498cc engine as standard for all markets except North America where the V8 was to be a standard fitting with the V8 also being optional for all other markets. The decision to fit the V8 for all markets was taken very late in the day. I doubt there would be different engine mounts for the in-line or V8 because quite a large number of Stags in the UK have been retro fitted with the 2498cc engine, suitably tuned with twin SU carbs, a. TR5 cylinder head and camshaft and they are just a quick as the V8. The only thing missing is the V8 noise. Upgrading the axle ratio from the original 3.7
 :1 unit in favour of one from the fuel injected saloon of 3.45:1 is another improvement, especially with a four speed Borg Warner or ZF slush box from a Volvo or BMW.


As you may know, the Stag body was a shorter version of the larger saloon car whose monocoque body was exceptionally rigid. I do clearly recall the torsional rigidity of the saloon was exceptional for its day, requiring 6,500 lbs/ft of torque to twist it one degree. By Michelotti revamping the saloon into an open top tourer, much of that rigidity would be lost and that is why the ?T? bar was fitted. It wasn?t quite as twist resistant as the saloon, but good enough. At least you didn?t have to call on brute strength to line up the soft or hard top to engage the locking pegs on the screen rail.  


Hope this helps. 




From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> 
Sent: 30 June 2020 17:27
To: John Macartney <John.Macartney at ukpips.org.uk>
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Manual gearbox with J type OD


Hello Jonmac,

Thanks for your email. On the Stag, the engine appears level. The offset is taken up by the engine plate. I dont have my parts book with me but was that engine plate repurposed from a Triumph 2000, 2.5 as there are some oddities on it which don't match up with the bell housing on the Stag.

Regards, Sujit


On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:19 AM John Macartney <John.Macartney at ukpips.org.uk <mailto:John.Macartney at ukpips.org.uk> > wrote:

The in line six engine was tilted by six degrees on the Triumph 2000 and 2500 to achieve a low bonnet line. As the Stag was originally planned to have two engines - the 2500 six and the V8, the position of the engine mounts was clearly never changed.



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On 30 Jun 2020, at 00:50, Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com <mailto:triumphstag at gmail.com> > wrote:


While installing the gearbox this weekend on a Stag, I noticed the gearbox is very slightly tilted to the right. I'm wondering if the TR6 which shares a similar looking box is also tilted?

If it is does anyone know why?


Sujit Roy
Cupertino, California


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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 15:01:13 -0400
From: David Friedlander <forzion7 at gmail.com>
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Subject: [TR] Original side curtain frames needed
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Hey all ~

I'm looking to get my side curtains rebuilt at TRF and find that they
won't rebuild my aftermarket curtains (Amco?). Anyone have a Dzus-
mounting set of side curtains that are in rebuildable condition that
they could be persuaded to sell? If so, please contact me off-list....

Thank you!!

Dave Friedlander
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 22:04:27 +0000 (UTC)
From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3 at yahoo.com>
To: 'David B Hammond' <dbh97530 at gmail.com>,  'Anthony Rhodes'
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Subject: Re: [TR] 49 triumph razorback
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 but if anyone is interested, i know of a mayflower that is in great shape body wise, but needs finishing as a project.for sale at a bargain of a price.no financial interest on my part.
    On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 11:16:41 AM PDT, Bill Brewer <billbrewer59 at yahoo.com> wrote:  
 ? ? I had a 1952 Triumph Renown for 7 years and just sold it about 3 or 4 months ago. I had to sell it quickly as I was relocating and had no place to keep it. Mine was complete, running and driving. I loved it. The car looked great, but needed a lot of love. They all do. Mine had a crack in the engine block and leaked about a quart of oil every 10 miles, mostly blowing past the rear seal. They sure are cute. The car felt terrifying about 60 mph.
??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shmEkHD8RpE&t=5s
? ? There is an active club in UK, but a Razoredge owner in the states is a lonely guy. The Triumph Razoredge Owners Club website is http://www.trocltd.com/. There is also a Renown group on Facebook.
? ? Spare body panels and trim are essentially non-existent. Same with proprietary rubber parts. 
? ? Usually Triumph Razoredge projects go in the $5,000 range if they are complete and not basket cases. Restored Razoredges command a lot less money that a TR3, usually around $10,000 or $12,000. There just isn't the demand for them. I sold my Renown to a friend in Utah who will love it and keep it on the road.
? ? You will not make money with the car. You'll love it though.

? ? -Bill Brewer

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Subject: [TR] 49 triumph razorback

I just stumbled across this car. A 49 triumph razorback. Been sitting for years. Can anyone tell me about value? This one needs restoration. Value now and finished?
David in Oregon


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