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<div><div dir="ltr">Send Triumphs mailing list submissions to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:triumphs-request@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-request@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You can reach the person managing the list at<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:triumphs-owner@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-owner@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br></div><div dir="ltr">than "Re: Contents of Triumphs digest..."<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Today's Topics:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> 1. Re: Manual gearbox with J type OD (John Macartney)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 2. Original side curtain frames needed (David Friedlander)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 3. Re: 49 triumph razorback (Frank Fisher)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 19:04:32 +0100<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "John Macartney" <<a href="mailto:john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "'Sujit Roy'" <<a href="mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: "'Triumphs'" <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Manual gearbox with J type OD<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <009e01d64f08$e8d53d70$ba7fb850$@ukpips.org.uk><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi, Sujit<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">In answer to your query, very likely. I never got really close to engineering variances because I was in Export Sales but part of the job was to study and remember all the Engineering Change Bulletins and Service campaign changes. It makes sense to have an engine plate that would cover both engines and especially for Stag. What many people don?t know is that the Stag was originally going to have the TR6 2498cc engine as standard for all markets except North America where the V8 was to be a standard fitting with the V8 also being optional for all other markets. The decision to fit the V8 for all markets was taken very late in the day. I doubt there would be different engine mounts for the in-line or V8 because quite a large number of Stags in the UK have been retro fitted with the 2498cc engine, suitably tuned with twin SU carbs, a. TR5 cylinder head and camshaft and they are just a quick as the V8. The only thing missing is the V8 noise. Upgrading the axle ratio from the original 3.7<br></div><div dir="ltr"> :1 unit in favour of one from the fuel injected saloon of 3.45:1 is another improvement, especially with a four speed Borg Warner or ZF slush box from a Volvo or BMW.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">As you may know, the Stag body was a shorter version of the larger saloon car whose monocoque body was exceptionally rigid. I do clearly recall the torsional rigidity of the saloon was exceptional for its day, requiring 6,500 lbs/ft of torque to twist it one degree. By Michelotti revamping the saloon into an open top tourer, much of that rigidity would be lost and that is why the ?T? bar was fitted. It wasn?t quite as twist resistant as the saloon, but good enough. At least you didn?t have to call on brute strength to line up the soft or hard top to engage the locking pegs on the screen rail. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hope this helps. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Jonmac<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Sujit Roy <<a href="mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: 30 June 2020 17:27<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: John Macartney <<a href="mailto:John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Manual gearbox with J type OD<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hello Jonmac,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks for your email. On the Stag, the engine appears level. The offset is taken up by the engine plate. I dont have my parts book with me but was that engine plate repurposed from a Triumph 2000, 2.5 as there are some oddities on it which don't match up with the bell housing on the Stag.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Regards, Sujit<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:19 AM John Macartney <<a href="mailto:John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a>> > wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The in line six engine was tilted by six degrees on the Triumph 2000 and 2500 to achieve a low bonnet line. As the Stag was originally planned to have two engines - the 2500 six and the V8, the position of the engine mounts was clearly never changed.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Jonmac<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">At the Battle of Waterloo, 1815:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Lord Uxbridge: ?By God, Sir - I?ve lost my leg?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Duke of Wellington: ?By God, Sir - so you have!?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 30 Jun 2020, at 00:50, Sujit Roy <<a href="mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>> > wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">While installing the gearbox this weekend on a Stag, I noticed the gearbox is very slightly tilted to the right. I'm wondering if the TR6 which shares a similar looking box is also tilted?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">If it is does anyone know why?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sujit<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sujit Roy<br></div><div dir="ltr">Cupertino, California<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>> **<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs </a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-- <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sujit Roy<br></div><div dir="ltr">Cupertino, California<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-- <br></div><div dir="ltr">This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200630/d57b6f0b/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200630/d57b6f0b/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 2<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 15:01:13 -0400<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: David Friedlander <<a href="mailto:forzion7@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">forzion7@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: TR3 Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>>, New England Triumphs<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [TR] Original side curtain frames needed<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <CAJ1eQwhgFysdjrK73j+<a href="mailto:kKgz98nG4rJitjESeJLKpcWBC5M5LOQ@mail.gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kKgz98nG4rJitjESeJLKpcWBC5M5LOQ@mail.gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hey all ~<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I'm looking to get my side curtains rebuilt at TRF and find that they<br></div><div dir="ltr">won't rebuild my aftermarket curtains (Amco?). Anyone have a Dzus-<br></div><div dir="ltr">mounting set of side curtains that are in rebuildable condition that<br></div><div dir="ltr">they could be persuaded to sell? If so, please contact me off-list....<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thank you!!<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Dave Friedlander<br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200630/457fdacb/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200630/457fdacb/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 3<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 22:04:27 +0000 (UTC)<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Frank Fisher <<a href="mailto:yellowtr3@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">yellowtr3@yahoo.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: 'David B Hammond' <<a href="mailto:dbh97530@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dbh97530@gmail.com</a>>, 'Anthony Rhodes'<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:spamiam@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">spamiam@comcast.net</a>>, <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>, Bill Brewer<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:billbrewer59@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">billbrewer59@yahoo.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] 49 triumph razorback<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:812088030.409561.1593554667317@mail.yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">812088030.409561.1593554667317@mail.yahoo.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> but if anyone is interested, i know of a mayflower that is in great shape body wise, but needs finishing as a project.for sale at a bargain of a price.no financial interest on my part.<br></div><div dir="ltr">frank<br></div><div dir="ltr"> On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 11:16:41 AM PDT, Bill Brewer <<a href="mailto:billbrewer59@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">billbrewer59@yahoo.com</a>> wrote: <br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"> ? ? I had a 1952 Triumph Renown for 7 years and just sold it about 3 or 4 months ago. I had to sell it quickly as I was relocating and had no place to keep it. Mine was complete, running and driving. I loved it. The car looked great, but needed a lot of love. They all do. Mine had a crack in the engine block and leaked about a quart of oil every 10 miles, mostly blowing past the rear seal. They sure are cute. The car felt terrifying about 60 mph.<br></div><div dir="ltr">??? <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shmEkHD8RpE&t=5s" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shmEkHD8RpE&t=5s</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">? ? There is an active club in UK, but a Razoredge owner in the states is a lonely guy. The Triumph Razoredge Owners Club website is <a href="http://www.trocltd.com/. " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.trocltd.com/. </a>There is also a Renown group on Facebook.<br></div><div dir="ltr">? ? Spare body panels and trim are essentially non-existent. Same with proprietary rubber parts. <br></div><div dir="ltr">? ? Usually Triumph Razoredge projects go in the $5,000 range if they are complete and not basket cases. Restored Razoredges command a lot less money that a TR3, usually around $10,000 or $12,000. There just isn't the demand for them. I sold my Renown to a friend in Utah who will love it and keep it on the road.<br></div><div dir="ltr">? ? You will not make money with the car. You'll love it though.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">? ? -Bill Brewer<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-----Original Message-----<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: David B Hammond [mailto:<a href="mailto:dbh97530@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dbh97530@gmail.com</a>] <br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:55 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: 'Anthony Rhodes'; <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [TR] 49 triumph razorback<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I just stumbled across this car. A 49 triumph razorback. Been sitting for years. Can anyone tell me about value? This one needs restoration. Value now and finished?<br></div><div dir="ltr">David in Oregon<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-- <br></div><div dir="ltr">This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs </a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200630/28e48ea8/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200630/28e48ea8/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Digest Footer<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Triumphs mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:Triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">End of Triumphs Digest, Vol 13, Issue 173<br></div><div dir="ltr">*****************************************<br></div></div>
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