Jonas Payne jpayne at jpaynepbr.onmicrosoft.com
Wed Nov 6 15:08:45 MST 2019


I have seen many mangled "VIN Numbers" on vintage car titles.

Apparently when DMV's across the country became computerized, there was no standard on how to input 17 digits in on a title for a car with a 4 or 5 digit serial number.

The solution for my 1960 Morgan registered in Hawaii was to insert 13 zeros in front of the 4 digit serial number.

I had a 1964 AH 3000 with a CA title that was AHEALEYBJ then the body tag number

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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Andrew Uprichard
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:13 PM
To: 'Triumphs' <triumphs at autox.team.net>; 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] VINs

I just went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory overdrive.  The old title appropriately ended "LO", but I was told that "Os" and "Is" are no longer acceptable in titles.  So I had to change the VIN (on the title) to "L0".  Then I had to call the insurance company to explain the same story to them and have them send me a proof of insurance with "L0".

Anyone else come across this?  Maybe it has been going on for years:  I have 4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.

Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, MI
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