Reihing, Randall S. Randall.Reihing at utoledo.edu
Fri Nov 8 05:15:07 MST 2019

The typical state, and national, government employee/department, knee jerk reaction when they encounter something they have no answer for and no one to tell them what to do, is to simply deny permission/approval, whatever.

This i because in all government offices the primary overriding priority when a problem is encountered is to first, and above all else, assign fault to someone. Not until that fault/responsibility for the issue has been assigned can they move forward on a solution.

In the private sector just the opposite is true. Analyze the problem. Determine a solution. Implement it. Find a way to deal with and/or prevent a recurrence and move on. Store the solution for future reference.

This why the private sector is always more efficient than government will ever be.

Randall Reihing

1959 TR3A

1960 TR3A

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Randall <tr3driver at ca.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 10:25:16 PM
To: 'Triumphs' <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [EXTERNAL] Re: VINs

I suspect it depends a lot on which clerk you get at the DMV.  There are a lot of special rules for old cars, which the average clerk doesn’t seem to know much about (nor often their supervisor).

The TR3A I bought around 1983 was an LO car, but the original paperwork had the wrong number entirely.  Not sure how that happened, but no one noticed for many years until the state started automatically matching insurance policies to registrations.  Even then, the DMV didn’t care, it was just a hassle having to take in proof of insurance to get my registration.

I finally took them the car, showed the commission plate, and they wrote a new title with -LO on it.

More recently, I bought a 56 TR3 that came with California “black plates”.  I wanted to keep the black plates on the car, but the DMV clerk insisted on writing up the paperwork under the “Year of Manufacture” provision, which I told her did not apply to my car.  (Black plates didn’t come out until 1963.}  Of course Sacramento denied the application.  I went back to the DMV quoting chapter and verse from the vehicle code, spoke to the branch supervisor and waited several hours before they finally admitted they did not know how to handle my application.  They eventually let me fill out a blank “statement of facts” and sent that to Sacramento (who approved my black plates).

The federal standards defining “VIN” didn’t come out until 1981, so they don’t apply to our cars.  That’s why we don’t have 17 letters and numbers, and can have ‘O’.

-- Randall

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