[TR] FW: What the HEAD is it?

Dave dlhogye at comcast.net
Wed Feb 22 11:34:11 MST 2017


Hi Bob,
The Razor Edge that the engine came from is still in Ben Lomond, under a tarp, where it has been for at least 35 years.

// Dave
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> On Feb 22, 2017, at 9:47 AM, Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Dave,
> It sounds a lot like the engine in my ’49 Roadster 2000. There is a tag riveted on that says it was a factory rebuild and it was a green color before I painted it.  If the top radiator hose is parallel to the ground, it may be from a Roadster 1800.
> Bob
>  
> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of davehogye
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 8:29 AM
> To: John Macartney
> Cc: list, TR; Randall, TR3driver
> Subject: Re: [TR] FW: What the HEAD is it?
>  
> I'm not exactly sure that this Razor Edge is a '47.  I thought I heard that year mentioned.  It could be a '48.
> Yes, the engine is painted a greenish/light blue and seams to be a metallic color.
> Yes, it is a wet liner engine with the thinner head studs.
> I also have the manifolds and single down draft carburator.
>  
> Dave H.
>  
>  
> From: "John Macartney" <john.macartney at ukpips.org.uk>
> To: "Dave Hogye" <dlhogye at comcast.net>
> Cc: "Michael Marr" <mmarr at albiontechnical.com>, "Randall" <TR3driver at ca.rr.com>, triumphs at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 2:03:09 AM
> Subject: RE: [TR] FW: What the HEAD is it?
>  
> If the engine was reconditioned in the UK by Beans Industries who did all
> the S-T and BL engine and transmission rebuilds since the dawn of time,
> it'll probably be painted a very unimpressive shade of medium to dark blue -
> if it hasn't since been repainted. Certainly the engine number will bear no
> resemblance to the original number. That said, if the car was shipped to the
> US for sale as a new car, the recon unit could well be of US recon origin.
> There comes a point when shipping old major units cores back to the UK for
> rebuilding and then return doesn't make too much economic sense. Where my
> memory is now failing me is whether the very early Razor Edge Renowns had
> the wet liner four unit? Grateful if someone can enlighten me because I've a
> niggling feeling the early 1800cc cars used a pre-war block and a new (very
> short term use) ohv head prior to the launch of Vanguard in 1948. That's why
> the earliest Ferguson tractors built in Coventry used Continental engines
> because the Vanguard unit wasn't ready for release in the car or tractor.
>  
> Jonmac
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Hogye [mailto:dlhogye at comcast.net] 
> Sent: 22 February 2017 00:11
> To: John Macartney <john.macartney at ukpips.org.uk>
> Cc: Michael Marr <mmarr at albiontechnical.com>; Randall <TR3driver at ca.rr.com>;
> triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] FW: What the HEAD is it?
>  
> The Triumph RazorEdge Vanguard head that I have has the same numbers cast
> under the thermostat extension.  It has 21 1 X cast on top next to the
> intake valve springs for cylinders 3 and 4.  This engine was rebuilt by
> Standard Triumph in 1958 and it has a dated brass plate attached over the
> original engine number area on the block.  I think the RazorEdge is a 1947.
> Dave H.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
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