[TR] General Conversation

Tony Drews tony at tonydrews.com
Sun Nov 21 18:52:41 MST 2010


Absolutely, you want to retorque with the engine either warm or 
hot.  You'll probably be surprised at how much movement you get.

Tony Drews

At 07:10 PM 11/21/2010, bill_beecher at flash.net wrote:
>On a similar note: My winter list includes replacing the studs(probably
>original) in the TR3 with a new set of ARP studs.  My engine guy said to
>re-torque after 200 miles with the engine warm, not hot.
>
>Does seem like sound advice for the TR3?  I really have no experience in
>this area not being an engine re-builder.
>
>TIA,
>Bill
>
>Bill Beecher
>'58 TR-3A TS30766L  "Tarbaby"
>www.triumphowners.com/1566
>"A Triumph is man's best friend, it always comes when it is called...of
>course, some times it is difficult to make it go"
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net
>[mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Curry
>Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 5:25 PM
>To: 'Adrian Jones'
>Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [TR] General Conversation
>
>All I can say about the subject is that I came across it when I opened a NOS
>head gasket package and a little slip of paper fell out with that
>recommendation.  So I would expect that there must have been issues.
>
>Since then, I have been doing that religiously every time I have taken the
>head off any Spitfire engine.  I was at first surprised at the amount of
>turning I had to do to get the proper torque after the engine warmed up.
>
>It makes me wonder how any engine that was not done in that fashion could
>avoid having problems with leaking head gaskets.
>
>Cheers,
>Joe
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Adrian Jones [mailto:adrianjones747 at earthlink.net]
>Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 5:19 PM
>To: 'Joe Curry'; triumphs at autox.team.net
>Subject: RE: [TR] General Conversation
>
>Joe,
>
>Many thanks on that tidbit!
>
>A couple of months ago, I had a pleasant phone conversation with the Moss
>Motors USA rep and that was what he recommended (re-torque when hot).
>
>Does this make you think that the factory had problems regarding the head
>gasket?  I seem to remember someone saying that the head gasket was a
>problem area for the 1500.
>
>I'm somewhat reluctant to go back and re-torque because a couple of months
>ago I was attempting to replace the head gasket in a friend of a friend's
>1500 MG and I managed to strip out some of the studs from the block(!).
>What is the consensus of opinion on re-torquing with regards to this 1500
>Triumph engine?
>
>Is it a necessity or is it just re-checking?  If necessity, hot or cold?
>
>By the way, I torqued down on bone-dry nuts and studs, ie no lubrication at
>all.
>
>Cheers!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe Curry [mailto:spitlist at cox.net]
>Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 6:33 PM
>To: 'Adrian Jones'; triumphs at autox.team.net
>Subject: RE: [TR] General Conversation
>
>Not generally known, but the Triumph factory recommended that for Spitfires
>at least, the head be retorqued immediately after running it up to operating
>temperature while the engine is still hot.
>
>Joe
>@autox.team.net
>
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