[Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners

Mon May 16 14:24:53 MDT 2022

I have both of the magazines.

The Mk1 article shows what might be a manufacturer's license plate with the
numbers 2930.  I can't make out the state but it looks like on the left
side of the plate there is a "1" stacked vertically over a "U" and  the
letters "D", "L" and "R" stacked vertically in the center of the plate.
The photo under the hood doesn't show the ID plate.

The Mk2 article shows a license plate that might be from California and on
the left side of the plate there is an "18" over an "R" and on the right
side is a "4". In the middle of the plate it looks like there are the
letters "D", "L" and "R" stacked vertically.  Once again, there is no photo
showing the ID plate.

I love looking at the ads in these old magazines.  In the September 1967
issue you could pick up a 1965 Ferrari 275 GTB for $8750.

Have Fun,
Joe Brown

On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 2:50 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Here are the cover pictures of the September 1967 issue and the Nov 1964
> issue.
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> Anyone have these R&T issues in their collection?
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> Putting a Vin #, Engine # or even a license plate # with these cars would
> be great.
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> Ron Fraser
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> *From:* jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2022 8:30 AM
> *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* tigers at Autox.Team.Net
> *Subject:* RE: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
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> It was the September 67 issue when they tested the MKII and November 64
> for the MKI.  They didn't mention the VIN.
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> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
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> Date: 5/16/22 7:59 AM (GMT-05:00)
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> To: 'jimdamelio' <jimdamelio at verizon.net>, 'Allan Ballard' <
> aballard at ix.netcom.com>, 'James Lindner' <jliny5 at cox.net>
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> Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
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> Subject: RE: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
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> Jim
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>                 Excellent, period photos are valuable for original details.
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> Any chance you know the month and year of that R&T issue or maybe the Vin
> # of that Mk II?
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> Ron Fraser
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> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *jimdamelio
> via Tigers
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 15, 2022 8:39 PM
> *To:* Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; James Lindner <
> jliny5 at cox.net>
> *Cc:* Tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
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> I have an 8 X 10 B&W photo of a MKII engine compartment and trunk taken by
> Road & Track when they tested the car.  You used to be able to buy copies
> of the pictures from them for a few bucks.  I requested copies of the MKI,
> but they couldn't find them.
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> From: Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
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> Date: 5/15/22 7:36 PM (GMT-05:00)
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> To: James Lindner <jliny5 at cox.net>
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> Cc: Tigers at autox.team.net
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> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
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> Jim’s work to document Tigers and Alpines is extraordinary.
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> A library of supplemental photographs from original cars could only help
> however, deepening the substances of  his primary resource.
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> A while ago at a show I met a couple with an unmolested, original Mk II
> Tiger.
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> They offered its use for just such purposes as we’ve discussed here.
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> Unfortunately I lost their card.
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> Other opportunities exist.
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> On May 15, 2022, at 12:43 PM, James Lindner via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Along the lines of a photo library, I would direct you to the Tiger and
> Alpine Judging guides on the TEAE website. These documents took me years to
> put together, and although the photos are often of restored cars, the
> information contained within came from some of the most knowledgeable Tiger
> and Alpine people. I cannot swear it is absolutely 100% accurate, but it is
> pretty close.
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> The Tiger guide was my first effort and at 30+ pages it does not go too
> deep.
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> https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/StockTigerQuickReferenceV2-19.pdf
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> The Alpine guide however, is more comprehensive and runs to 130 pages.
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> https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Concours-Judging-Guide-Sunbeam-Alpines.pdf
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> These are living documents which I update occasionally. Soon I will be
> adding the info about hinge fasteners, along with a couple other
> updates/corrections. OBTW…I am going with unpainted hinge fasteners.
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> Jim Lindner
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> On May 15, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
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> Mayf sent me this note and I wanted to make sure everyone on the List
> received it.
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> What I think we need is a photo record from any original owner with an
> original Tiger to send photos to the List.
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> Photos of each Tiger Series would be the goal - B947, B948, B382 and B3821.
> I also think photos of each Alpine Series would be helpful.
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> Ron Fraser
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Mayfield <drmayf at mayfco.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 10:49 AM
> To: 'Ron Fraser' <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> Subject: RE: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
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> Ron, mine are OEM. Round slot screws where they run on the weather seal and
> stud and nut other side through the deck and into the hinge.  None are
> painted.  And my car has been painted 3 times since I acquired it. Paint
> shops knew not to paint them.
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> mayf
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Ron Fraser
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 4:56 AM
> To: 'Allan Ballard' <aballard at ix.netcom.com>
> Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
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> Allan
>    The photo evidence indicates that the Parts List is not correct.
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> The fasteners should be natural color, not painted.
> The trunk lid would be painted 1st, paint cured then installed.
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> The March 1963 shows this screw in the Series I & II section for the trunk
> hinge
> 2203571    Screw, 1/4" UNF. X 1/2" Special
> This screw is also listed for the Series III & IV trunk hinge but the word
> Special is not there.
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> This screw # does not show up in the ZY section of the Parts List.
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> Your pictures look like a large headed Round Screw much like a license
> plate
> screw.
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> I know my trunk hinge fasteners are not original so no help there.
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> Ron Fraser
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Allan Ballard
> via
> Tigers
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 1:39 AM
> To: Jay Laifman <jay.laifman at gmail.com>
> Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
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> These are going on my Forest
> Green Mk1a Tiger:
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