[Tigers] Tigers soft top

Gary Winblad garywinblad at comcast.net
Thu Feb 28 08:17:09 MST 2019 

A zip down rear window has been on my wish list too.  Ventilation and 
replaceability  would be much improved!
Plastic rear windows are ok if they are easily replaceable.
I have seen two Tigers in years past that had this on their custom tops, 
it IS possible.

I have also thought about:
Making the soft top removable like (some) MGBs.  No need to carry it if 
you have the hardtop on.
Making the top flip down from the drivers seat like most newer or 
smarter convertibles.  Adapting a Miata
top bow mechanism is what I am thinking...
Both mods would involve trashing the MKI metal doors that don't work 
with the roll bar anyway... leaving
the area open like a GT.
Gary



On 2/27/2019 10:30 PM, Warren Goodman via Tigers wrote:
>
> VWs verts had 3 different sizes of tear windows, but even the smallest 
> would not fit.
> Falcons have a zipped window that would be fine as a model to make 
> smaller for a Tiger.  Possibly a bi-fold Fox body  Mustang could be 
> cut down to fit in front or behind the raised metal ledge in the top 
> well. This idea has always been on my wish list for the Falcon and Tiger.
>
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> From: "Larry E. Paulick" <lpaulick1 at verizon.net 
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> I saw a red Tiger with Red HT in Annapolis on Tuesday getting on Route 
> 50 (going east) from Route 2 around 1-1:30 PM yesterday.  Can the 
> owner email me privately, or if you know this owner, let me have 
> contact info.
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> > On Feb 27, 2019, at 2:22 PM, coolvt--- via Tigers 
> <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> >
> > If I remember right the MGB had a window that zipped on the top and 
> sides. Could be left down for a nice breeze through the car.
> >
> > In a message dated 2/27/2019 2:03:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> writes:
> >
> > Doug Robbins (who designed the soft top for the Tiger) says adding a 
> zipper to the current design would lead to wrinkles in the top.  The 
> entire design would have to be changed in order to properly support a 
> zipper soft top.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net 
> <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>] On Behalf Of michael king via 
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> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:19 AM
> > To: Rob Hogan
> > Cc: Tiger's List
> > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Convertible Top's Plastic Window
> >
> >
> > A big reason that they all have plastic windows is quite obvious by 
> the shot of the very early volks convertible... they have a VERY small 
> rear window and the tops folded down like a pram sitting on the back 
> of the car.
> >
> >
> >
> > While some modern cars have split glass rear windows in the tops so 
> the glass can fold into a smaller space.. glass generally needs to 
> remain flat and not be forced into a small space when folded.
> >
> >
> >
> > You could probably make a Sunbeam with a zip-out window like some 
> MX5's (miata) or some other more modern convertibles.. but size, 
> folding mechanism and likelihood of impact are main reasons they are 
> not often used.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 17:12, Rob Hogan via Tigers 
> <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> 
> <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>>> wrote:
> >
> > In a Facebook Jalopnik article, author Jason Torchinsky expounds on 
> "Why Was This OK" in reference to the application of substandard 
> plastic rear windows in convertible tops of almost every auto 
> manufacturer except VW.
> >
> >
> >
> > As he explains: " No matter how amazing or expensive or well-built 
> the car one of these plastic windows was stuck on, sooner or later the 
> window would cloud up and get filthy and more and more opaque, until 
> eventually it?d yellow and crack" and "But there?s also questions for 
> the convertible-buying population of the time, specifically, why did 
> anyone put up with this s***?"
> >
> >
> >
> > Having recently replaced my own Tiger's convertible perfectly 
> useable top specifically because of a no longer transparent rear 
> plastic window, I'd like to know if there is even the option of having 
> the rear window replaced with a new glass or plastic window.  I would 
> have gladly paid extra for a top without a deficient plastic window.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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> Go GT and you won?t have to worry about it.
>
> For most tops, by the time the plastic goes bad, probably need a new 
> top anyway.
>
> FWIW on my 18 year old Boxster top, I have routinely  cleaned it with 
> Plexus and it is still good.
>
> > On Feb 27, 2019, at 11:22 AM, coolvt--- via Tigers 
> <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> >
> > If I remember right the MGB had a window that zipped on the top and 
> sides. Could be left down for a nice breeze through the car.
> >
> > In a message dated 2/27/2019 2:03:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> writes:
> >
> > Doug Robbins (who designed the soft top for the Tiger) says adding a 
> zipper to the current design would lead to wrinkles in the top.  The 
> entire design would have to be changed in order to properly support a 
> zipper soft top.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net 
> <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>] On Behalf Of michael king via 
> Tigers
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:19 AM
> > To: Rob Hogan
> > Cc: Tiger's List
> > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Convertible Top's Plastic Window
> >
> >
> >
> > A big reason that they all have plastic windows is quite obvious by 
> the shot of the very early volks convertible... they have a VERY small 
> rear window and the tops folded down like a pram sitting on the back 
> of the car.
> >
> >
> >
> > While some modern cars have split glass rear windows in the tops so 
> the glass can fold into a smaller space.. glass generally needs to 
> remain flat and not be forced into a small space when folded.
> >
> >
> >
> > You could probably make a Sunbeam with a zip-out window like some 
> MX5's (miata) or some other more modern convertibles.. but size, 
> folding mechanism and likelihood of impact are main reasons they are 
> not often used.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 17:12, Rob Hogan via Tigers 
> <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> >
> > In a Facebook Jalopnik article, author Jason Torchinsky expounds on 
> "Why Was This OK" in reference to the application of substandard 
> plastic rear windows in convertible tops of almost every auto 
> manufacturer except VW.
> >
> >
> >
> > As he explains: " No matter how amazing or expensive or well-built 
> the car one of these plastic windows was stuck on, sooner or later the 
> window would cloud up and get filthy and more and more opaque, until 
> eventually it?d yellow and crack" and "But there?s also questions for 
> the convertible-buying population of the time, specifically, why did 
> anyone put up with this s***?"
> >
> >
> >
> > Having recently replaced my own Tiger's convertible perfectly 
> useable top specifically because of a no longer transparent rear 
> plastic window, I'd like to know if there is even the option of having 
> the rear window replaced with a new glass or plastic window.  I would 
> have gladly paid extra for a top without a deficient plastic window.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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