[Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 11, Issue 141

Norm Gilbertson njerald at msn.com
Wed Apr 24 14:49:39 MDT 2019


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   1. Re: Tiger shifter steel plugs/springs (Iron beast)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:11:21 -0400
From: Iron beast <ironbeast at comcast.net>
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger shifter steel plugs/springs
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Tony
Is this what you need?

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Paul

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> On Apr 24, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Tony Lang via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I have a couple shifters Ive collected thru the years but I am missing a spring and steel plug on at least two of the shifters. Does anyone have knowledge were and or if I can purchase replacement parts?
> TIA... TonytheTiger
>
> Tony Lang (TtT)
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> On ?Tuesday?, ?April? ?23?, ?2019? ?12?:?55?:?02? ?PM? ?CDT, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Thank you for your update ? still good information.
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> The basics with the Ford shifter is that it can be a little weak.
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> Seems to me when I worked my shifter; I inspected all the parts for straightness, rough edges and wear ? repaired as required
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> Keeping all the working parts parallel is important
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> If using 2 spring washers for added spring force or adding an extra washer or shim keeps everything parallel then do that
>
> I remember stretching the big main spring on the shifter some to increase the spring force ? an extra washer or shim there would do the same
>
> Lube the working parts
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> Install shifter and follow the alignment procedure ? I think I went through this procedure twice ? 1st time to set everything in place then rowed through the gears a couple of times then the 2nd alignment procedure ? I think there was a slight offset which I corrected and all was well
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> Some linkage parts are available ? C5ZZ-7285RPK ? the parts that attach the shift rod to the shifter levers
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> I?m thinking the kit you used had more parts.
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> If there were any instructions ? please share them with everyone.
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> The gearshift lever has trunnion set ? 2 steel plugs and 2 springs ? I stretched these 2 springs
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> Ron Fraser
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> From: phastphill at aol.com <phastphill at aol.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 11:01 AM
> To: rfraser at bluefrog.com
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
>
>
> did it 5-6 years ago before my stroke so a bit fuzzy....it was a kit either from kee or toploader heaven....there are wave type washers i think that give a bit of extra spring....ie to help going from 2 to 3 we shimmed the linkage with one or two extra...now if i push shifter out of 2 it goes right to 3 with basically no help just push it in gear...kit had all new bushings,and we made sure every thing was aligned right...i'll see if i can find the old box in the garage
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> it was toploader heaven....seems to be out of business now....sorry
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> To: phastphill <phastphill at aol.com>; Tigers <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> Cc: tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>; rtscolgan <rtscolgan at yahoo.com>
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>
> Sent: Mon, Apr 22, 2019 7:23 pm
> Subject: RE: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
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> Phastphill
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>                 I looked through David Kee?s catalog and I do not see any linkage kits, I only see shifters.   May be I missed the parts you speak of.
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> Do you have a part # for the kit you used?
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> Is it still listed in the David Kee catalog or do you have to ask for the kit you used?
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> Do you have more description of what you did to the stock shift linkage?
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> Thanks
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> Ron Fraser
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> From: phastphill at aol.com <phastphill at aol.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 12:20 PM
> To: Tigers at embarqmail.com; rfraser at bluefrog.com
> Cc: tigers at autox.team.net; rtscolgan at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
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> i rebuilt my linkage with a kit from david kee...and a couple of extra shims for a perfect 2-3 shift,people who drive it can't believe it is a stock toploader...http://davidkeetoploaders.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Seay via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> Cc: Tiger Server <tigers at autox.team.net>; Russ and Tammy C. <rtscolgan at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Sat, Apr 20, 2019 11:08 am
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
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> Russ,
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>
> Ron is right.  I had the same problem when my Tiger was factory new.  I remember sitting at an intersection and trying to get into 1st gear.  Finally put it back into reverse and then back out and all was well.  Follow everybody's advice about linkage alignment, but I think that the problem will never completely go away - it's the nature of the beast.
> --
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> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
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> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 3:02 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Russ
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>                I believe I?ve been there and sometimes still happens.
>
> The linkage is stuck in reverse gear position.   If you put it back into reverse and carefully pull it out of reverse it should be OK.   I found that worked after getting under the Tiger a couple times to get it in a forward gear which is no fun at all.
>
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> I believe this problem is all in the shifter mechanism.
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> I?m not exactly sure how I reduced this occurrence, it was 20 years ago, but here is a go at it.
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> I believe I took the shifter mechanism out ? cleaned it ? inspected it - lubed it and I stretched the spring a little.
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> I also replaced the trunnion on the shifter.
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> Assemble the shifter ? check and adjust the shifter linkage as required.
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> That worked for me ? only once in a great while does the shifter hang up now.
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> Hope this helps with your problem
>
> Ron Fraser
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> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Russ and Tammy C. via Tigers
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 12:42 PM
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
>
>
> After  my recent engine rebuild  I am having trouble with the tranny getting stuck in two gears.  Not good.  It occurs when trying to go forward after putting it in reverse It won't go into any forward gear. Did I perhaps bend something getting it back into the tunnel on replacing the motor?  I didn't do anything to the tranny  when out of the car.  I did clean it up and repaint before re-entry.  It was suggested that  I cleaned it too good and it needed to be relubed on the rods and levers.  That did seem to help but it still gets stuck on occasion and I can release it by putting it back into reverse.  That is the good news. I had to get under the car and hit the lever before to pop it out of gear.    The levers all line up where they should be under the shifter.  Fluid level is good.  Is the fluid correct( valvoline gear oil--high performance 80-90w )?  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Russ                 rtscolgan at yahoo.com
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