[Tigers] Distributor continued

[Stu]

Problem solved, I think.  Walking by the tool department at Lowes I
suddenly realized the solution was hanging on a rack for about $5.  A nut
driver, the one piece type with a screwdriver handle.  No pieces to fall
off or get stuck on the shaft, and not magnetic, as Jerry's video warns.

It went right down into the hole and engaged the shaft (1/4 inch hex)
easily.  I could feel resistance as it turned, and it pulled off easily.
So I should be able to fiddle with the shaft position until I find one that
will line up with the right rotor position. I didn't finish the job yet, as
there is still more on the "honey do" list for today, but maybe this
evening or tomorrow afternoon.

Thanks for the hints.

Stu

On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 6:09 AM, Tony Lang <achd73 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>  Tom, you misunderstood what I meant. I sent  a message earlier that I
> always rotate the timing to the distributor with rotor pointing at number
> one, on compression PRIOR to removing the distributor, not after it was
> out. It will go back in the same way it came out. If he moved the timing
> now, he would have to get it  on TDC and compression then replace the
> distributor. My first message, which was also sent to the list didn't post,
> it has taken several weeks to get the owner to fix what was causing my
> messages not to post. Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.
> Tony Lang (TtT)
>
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> *From:* Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *To:* Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com>; tigers at autox.team.net
> *Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 8:40 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Distributor continued
>
> No, don’t do that. The shaft *may* not move and you will alter the timing
> (as it relates to the original position)! I just feel uncomfortable
> advising the movement of gears that aren't properly meshed. Not saying
> others haven’t done that but I’d rather be cautious.  When I stated you
> will not lose timing I was referring to the rotation of the oil pump shaft
> – only. The oil pump itself doesn’t matter to any timing relationship. It
> just needs to be indexed to the distributor (hex) so it can turn.  The
> camshaft is turned by the crank via the timing chain. The camshaft gear
> turns the distributor gear and the hex shaft (from the bottom of the
> distributor) turns to oil pump.
>
> *From:* Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 3:29 PM
> *To:* Tom Witt <atwittsend at verizon.net>
> *Cc:* Tiger Net <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Distributor continued
>
> Hmmm... since the gear is at least partly engaged, I should be able to
> rotate the engine a bit and not loose timing, right?  So if I put it in 4th
> and pushed the car back and forth making minor adjustments to the rotor
> position, shouldn't I be able to eventually match the alignment of the pump
> shaft?
>
> Stu
>
> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Tom Witt <atwittsend at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> You are correct. The hex drive shaft for the oil pump is not lining up
> with the distributor. There are no timing issues with the oil pump so just
> rotate the hex shaft as needed (it is a guessing game – *a little this
> way, a little that way*). Whatever you can get down on the shaft will
> do.  Just be careful not to lift the shaft (which has been known to happen
> if you use a socket on a long extension). Otherwise you will then have to
> get the shaft back into the oil pump.
>
> *From:* Stu via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 12:00 PM
> *To:* Tiger Net <Tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Distributor continued
>
> Ok, I got the distributor out, cleaned everything up, and went to put it
> back in.  Problem.  It will only go all the way down with the gear one
> tooth off from where it came out.  If I start putting it in with the rotor
> pointing where it stopped as I pulled it out, the gear engages and it looks
> like it will rotate into the right position, but it won't go down all the
> way.  If I start with it one tooth ccw, it goes in just fine, but the rotor
> is not in the original position.  I took a "before" picture before I pulled
> it out, so I know where the rotor was pointing.
>
> Nothing has moved,  the tranny is in neutral, no power on at all.  I'm
> assuming that this must relate to the oil pump drive not engaging.  What do
> I do now?
>
> Stu
>
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