[Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 9, Issue 125

Tue Jun 13 20:37:29 MDT 2017

Hi John,
I sure wish someone had a solution.  Yes, my MK1 average is just about 
like yours 1/25!!  Not good.
Not everyone complains though, Paul Reisentz says he has no problem...
What's Tom Hall up to, bet he would know what to do..
Gary

On 6/13/2017 1:18 PM, John Stithem via Tigers wrote:
> Hi Gary,
> I think pretty much everyone with a Tiger in California can relate to 
> what you are going through trying to get a fill-up.I can get gas in 
> the tank about 1 in 25 times w/o spilling it down the side of the MKI.
> I think it is the Gas Cap on the Tiger that is the problem. The vapor 
> recovery hoses in California just don’t seal around the fill hose on 
> the Tiger gas cap.
> If anyone has come up with a solution to this problem - I would sure 
> like to hear about it.
>
> John Stithem
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>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 13:36:26 -0700
>> From: Gary Winblad <garywinblad at comcast.net 
>> <mailto:garywinblad at comcast.net>>
>> To: Larry Mayfield <drmayf at mayfco.com <mailto:drmayf at mayfco.com>>, 
>> 'Tony Lang'
>> <achd73 at yahoo.com <mailto:achd73 at yahoo.com>>, Tiger List 
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>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] cross over hose plus other questions...
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>> Hey, Mayf.   While you are thinking of gas tanks...
>> I have the worst time forcing gas into my Tigers around here with the
>> vapor recovery gas pumps.
>> I am not really sure what the problem is, but I end up with gas running
>> down the side of my Tiger and
>> it is eating my paint!
>>
>> I am thinking that an open vent on the driver side would help.  Then I
>> could jam the nozzle tight with
>> the inlet which really makes a mess if I do that now.  Even if I pull
>> back the recovery part and hold it
>> like when I fill small portable tank for the lawn mower doesn't work
>> unless I really barely drip it in,
>> and then my hand hurts before I get even a couple gallons.
>>
>> Very occasionally I get a pump that will let me push it in tight and
>> pump it quickly with no spill..  Is that a
>> good pump or one that's really broken or mis-adjusted?  I think the
>> later because it is so rare.
>>
>> Gary
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>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 16:51:40 -0700
>> From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com <mailto:drmayf at mayfco.com>>
>> To: "'Gary Winblad'" <garywinblad at comcast.net 
>> <mailto:garywinblad at comcast.net>>, "'Tony Lang'"
>> <achd73 at yahoo.com <mailto:achd73 at yahoo.com>>, "'Tiger List'" 
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>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] cross over hose plus other questions...
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>> Good day, Gary! Always glad to hear from ya.  So, black hose of some 
>> sort.  I will measure the hose barb OD tomorrow before I head down to 
>> the local industrial supply and see what they have for hose.  And I 
>> will get about 10 feet of the stuff whatever it is. I have a lot of 
>> hose clamps.
>>
>> Let's chat about slow filling and fuel spillage on the car fender's 
>> paint. Stop That!  I guess we need to first figure out what the issue 
>> is that is causing the slow fill and blow back maybe. So, lets thing 
>> of all the things that can cause a slow filling and the consequences 
>> of that.  What if the driver's side tank cannot vent as fuel is being 
>> put into the tank? If the vent hose is kinked and air cannot escape 
>> then pressure is going to build up in that side and it will not fill 
>> very quickly. That sound correct or likely?  Next is maybe the I 
>> think I could make a case for removing the D side tank hide panel and 
>> remove the hose from that barb to see if that cures the problem. And 
>> since the P side tank is getting the full flow of fuel, than perhaps 
>> it is causing some blow back into the recovery system. More than it 
>> is designed to take?  Does it need to have a tight seal to work? Been 
>> a long time since I bought gas in LALA land. And if that  system 
>> works when you have adequate v!
>> enting fr
>> om the tanks, then maybe you need a big old solenoid valve to dump 
>> the fumes from the tanks into CA's finest air.  So a solenoid around 
>> the P side fill hose in the underside of the fender, with a new dump 
>> position might help. And maybe get ya thrown into jail if someone 
>> snitches on ya. A simple T in the fine with the valve on the middle 
>> leg would work, dump it under the car or maybe even into a vapor 
>> recovery canister from a junque yarde donor.  Are those cheater 
>> devices that let you seal off the recovery part of the fill hose 
>> available anywhere? Heck, I would make a simple one and try it some 
>> midnight when no one is looking. Some kind of grommet to seal the 
>> fill to a bag that can be tired around the recovery hose. See how 
>> that works. And run when the California Climate Control Cops come... 
>> very fast... Check in Hemmings? Maybe the old car folk have a 
>> solution already.  Next is a possible rats nest in the cross over 
>> pipe? Got any old rags down there from when you might had !
>> had all t
>> hat stuff apart? Slow is ok for running but filling is not  when the 
>> pump is dumping at warp nine. Maybe look for a older gas station that 
>> might have a slower system. I know some stations have pump handles 
>> and pumps which can put a lot of fuel  into the tanks in really short 
>> order ...useful for Motor Homes and trucks on gasoline.  I think you 
>> get an older pump system that is not pumping 5 times the rate as the 
>> ones you have been going to. So go to older gas stations that look 
>> derelict and ready to fold and go under, lol.  If pump flow is the 
>> issue I do not know why slowing it down with the handle does not work.
>>
>> Anyone else have this problem> I live in Nye County in Nevada and we 
>> have zero climate controls here.
>>
>> Interested is seeing what the solution is myself.
>>
>> mayf
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