[Tigers] Seat Belts and Seat Slider

Joel Martin jmartiniii at yahoo.com
Mon Sep 28 10:39:29 MDT 2015 

Mark
The 3 point belts I used were Beams Industries, CH300 or 140578 part number I believe.  Seats back this week hopefully and then can road test car.
The rear point in the wheel well came with a spacer along with the belts.  Had to punch/cut small hole in cover but with spacer in place, the belt attaches nicely with no pressure on side cover.  If you car did not have prior should harness, the bolt holes will be very rusty after taking out the plastic plug on inside of wheel wells.  Plan to re-tap if enough metal left.  

We made 4 -7/16" by 3/8" long spacers for the bolt connections on either side of seats - you might need to consider this if you go with something along these lines for belts.  We will wait to snug these bolts down with seats and person in seats to get the correct bolt angle.  Picture attached for this section - wheel well picture went into never never land.

RegardsJoel Martin.
 


     On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:13 AM, "CoolVT at aol.com" <CoolVT at aol.com> wrote:
   

 Thank you Joel.Mark In a message dated 9/22/2015 9:11:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jmartiniii at yahoo.com writes:
  Mark 
 I believe these were period correct style from British Victoria.  I purchased them years ago.  Non retractable with no center belt stiffener.  The seats should come back next week, then the actual use of them I can discuss.  Right now they are just installed, so I cannot tell you the ease of use with having to hunt for belt or not.  My MGB has a stiffener and in is a pain due to the length - it gets in the crack between the seat and the tunnel and is hard to get out. 
 Folks have been discussing the use of MGB retractable from Moss is why I bring this up. 
 Joel 
 

 

    On Friday, September 18, 2015 3:58 PM, "CoolVT at aol.com" <CoolVT at aol.com> wrote:


    Joel,  How about a report on the type of 3 point that you used......brand name, model #, retractable or non-retractable, does the center belt have a stiffener that sticks up or do will you have to hunt for the belt each time, etc...... Anyone else have info on what works well in a Tiger? Mark    In a message dated 9/18/2015 2:41:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tigers at autox.team.net writes: 
   Thanks to all who responded.  3 point belts are almost complete.  The wheel well nuts never had anything in them, the car only had lap belts before, so re-tapping was required - rear wheel well sides done.  I am going to get a few (4) small spacers for the behind the seat attachment points so it does not bunch up the carpet at this location.   
 The belts came with 2 spacers for the wheel well location in order to get through the vinyl and padding with a small hole punched\cut at this location to ensure not messing up the vinyl.  Looks pretty good. 
 Progress is slow but am getting all the little things completed while waiting for the chrome door finishers to come back in order to complete the doors as well as getting the top frame complete with center strap attached.  We ended up with a 2 piece installation here.  One from the middle bow to back bow and a long piece from the header to the rear bow.  We are not attaching the header portion until the top is installed to ensure a taught fit.  Seats should be back from upholster some time in the next 2 weeks and then interior would be complete. 
 Thanks again for the responses, it was a little nerve racking early this week, not thinking there was no frame belt mounting points.  MGB inside captive nuts - Sunbeam outside interior compartment captive nuts - who knew - whew! 
 Regards Joel Martin
 

    On Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:00 PM, "CoolVT at aol.com" <CoolVT at aol.com> wrote:


    Stu, if you hit something hard enough to flip the passenger seat forward I think you're going to have more to worry about than a seat ;-)    In a message dated 9/17/2015 1:31:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tigers at autox.team.net writes: 
  In my Tiger, assembled in the late summer of '66, there were mounts for lap belts under the rugs, and for the shoulder belt on the wheel arch in the rear.  They are threaded to take the standard seat belt bolt, whatever that is, because a couple sets I've obtained from other cars, including a Mercedes, fit right in.   
 I'm on the short side, and didn't like the angle of the lap belt when using the standard mounts, so I added a second set of mounts further forward, just by drilling holes in the floor and using those giant washers intended for seat belt mounting 
 If you are in the seat and have your belts on, the seat should be unable to tip forward.  The empty passenger seat is another issue... 
 Stu 
 On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
 
   I must confess, when doing metal and body work, I did not think ahead regarding seat belt mounting locations.  I know with 1968 and newer cars you are required to wear a seat belt but I am sure I want them on any car I drive. 
 So, what do people do regarding adding seat belts 'after' welding is out of the question with new paint completed and carpet installed?  My MGB has welded in captive nuts for belts and shoulder strap mounting points and I guess I was thinking the Tiger MK 1A had them as well - bad mistake.  Options now? 
 My other concern is with the seat slider where the seats 'raise/tip' forward with no way to hold back of seat frame from tipping forward in case of front end accident.  How have folks addressed this issue or is it a none issue? 
 Regards 
 Joel Martin
 

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