[Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 390

[Gary Winblad]

It sounds like you have a non-standard setup, Joel..
You should have a spacer on the clutch master, and there shouldn't be
any interference with the brake master (its plastic resorvoir is bolted
on and could be rotated IIRC).

I have often thought about modifying the stock setup myself, there is
alot of wasted space behind the pedals that would be great for more
leg room.

Gary

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From: Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
To: tigers at autox.team.net, rfraser at bluefrog.com
Sent: Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:35:29 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 390

Ron
These casting numbers do not match my pedals at all - casting number of 1990300 verses 1224677 - LHD1229806 for RHD.  Any ideas what 1990300 was suppose to fit?  Can you send me a photo of your pedals and the guesstimate of the space behind them to the firewall?  Anyone else have a opinion?
ThanksJoel Martin
 


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Today's Topics:

  1. Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space
      (Joel Martin)
  2. Re: Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space
      ( Ron Fraser)
  3. Re: Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space
      (Tom Parker)
Installed drivers seat today, and moved seat all the way to rear - comes right up to rear shelf on slider - good. I am 6'0" tall.  Concern is the amount of room between knees, stock steering wheel (15.3"), right knee to shift lever and the foot pedals.  With the clutch pushed in there is still about 8" left to the firewall with about 11" from brake pedal and the accelerator pedals to the firewall.
Do we really have this much wasted foot well room from the end of the pedals to the firewall?  The brake pedal and the accelerator pedal are about even in the foot well with the clutch about 1" further 'out' than the other 2.

Findings:  Both the brake and clutch pedal have the same casting number of 1990300 but with different bends entirely.  This seams unusual.  The Clutch bends to the left with only 1 available hole connecting to the pedal bracket.  The brake bends slightly to the right with 2 holes available connecting to the pedal bracket.  Both brackets look to be the same.

Spacers at the master cylinders:  brake master has spacer between master and firewall.  Clutch master does not have spacer due to brake reservoir slightly to one side closest to clutch reservoir, so no spacer or the clutch master reservoir would contact brake master reservoir and would not bolt up..
I see all this wasted foot well space and now wonder if I have the right pedals, brackets etc for this car.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
RegardsJoel Martin



 MessageJoel Since these cars are both left & right hand drive capable; both side foot wells are similar and nearly symmetrical. There is only 1 part # for the clutch and brake pedal - 1224677 - LHD1229806 for RHD They should have 1 hole for the pivot point and 2 holes for the clutch or brake push rod. It is very common in manufacturing of pedals to have 1 part, the forged base part which is then struck again to make different pedals. I found the foot well space behind the pedals to be very handy when driving long distance in cruise control - room to stretch my legs. Ron Fraser  
  -----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin via Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 7:37 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space

  Installed drivers seat today, and moved seat all the way to rear - comes right up to rear shelf on slider - good. I am 6'0" tall.  Concern is the amount of room between knees, stock steering wheel (15.3"), right knee to shift lever and the foot pedals.  With the clutch pushed in there is still about 8" left to the firewall with about 11" from brake pedal and the accelerator pedals to the firewall. 
 Do we really have this much wasted foot well room from the end of the pedals to the firewall?  The brake pedal and the accelerator pedal are about even in the foot well with the clutch about 1" further 'out' than the other 2.
 
 Findings:  Both the brake and clutch pedal have the same casting number of 1990300 but with different bends entirely.  This seams unusual.  The Clutch bends to the left with only 1 available hole connecting to the pedal bracket.  The brake bends slightly to the right with 2 holes available connecting to the pedal bracket.  Both brackets look to be the same.
 
 Spacers at the master cylinders:  brake master has spacer between master and firewall.  Clutch master does not have spacer due to brake reservoir slightly to one side closest to clutch reservoir, so no spacer or the clutch master reservoir would contact brake master reservoir and would not bolt up.. 
 I see all this wasted foot well space and now wonder if I have the right pedals, brackets etc for this car. 
 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. 
 Regards Joel Martin
 
 
 

Joel,
There doesn't seem to be much adjustment available for pedal height except the two holes on the foot pedal, which gains / costs you @ 1 1/2" of height according to Section K of the Tiger Workshop Manual. If the goal is to have all 3 pedals' height the same that's the base line... whichever hole you choose, and adjust the throttle pedal height to match the brake and clutch height. I don't think the original brake and clutch rods were adjustable... at least the diagram doesn't show it... but later / aftermarket cylinder pushrods may have an adjustment there. 
You're right, imo, the travel is far more than needed for full clutch / brake engagement, But with the Tiger tunnel mods it gets a bit tight the closer to the firewall the pedals get. I'm a little guy; the folks with big feet will have issues the lower the pedals. As it is it's easy to hit the brake and throttle at the same time until one gets used to the car. 
Anything can be accomplished with a drill press, but stock height, sadly, appears to be fixed.
Tom'67 Mark 2
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

Joel Since these cars are both left & right hand drive capable; both side foot wells are similar and nearly symmetrical. There is only 1 part # for the clutch and brake pedal - 1224677 - LHD1229806 for RHD They should have 1 hole for the pivot point and 2 holes for the clutch or brake push rod. It is very common in manufacturing of pedals to have 1 part, the forged base part which is then struck again to make different pedals. I found the foot well space behind the pedals to be very handy when driving long distance in cruise control - room to stretch my legs. Ron Fraser  
  -----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin via Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 7:37 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space

  Installed drivers seat today, and moved seat all the way to rear - comes right up to rear shelf on slider - good. I am 6'0" tall.  Concern is the amount of room between knees, stock steering wheel (15.3"), right knee to shift lever and the foot pedals.  With the clutch pushed in there is still about 8" left to the firewall with about 11" from brake pedal and the accelerator pedals to the firewall. 
 Do we really have this much wasted foot well room from the end of the pedals to the firewall?  The brake pedal and the accelerator pedal are about even in the foot well with the clutch about 1" further 'out' than the other 2.
 
 Findings:  Both the brake and clutch pedal have the same casting number of 1990300 but with different bends entirely.  This seams unusual.  The Clutch bends to the left with only 1 available hole connecting to the pedal bracket.  The brake bends slightly to the right with 2 holes available connecting to the pedal bracket.  Both brackets look to be the same.
 
 Spacers at the master cylinders:  brake master has spacer between master and firewall.  Clutch master does not have spacer due to brake reservoir slightly to one side closest to clutch reservoir, so no spacer or the clutch master reservoir would contact brake master reservoir and would not bolt up.. 
 I see all this wasted foot well space and now wonder if I have the right pedals, brackets etc for this car. 
 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. 
 Regards Joel Martin
 
 
 


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