[Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 390

Tom Parker tkparker1941 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 4 11:33:10 MST 2015 

Joel, Ron,

My casting numbers are 1990300 also. Picture if you need it.

Not sure what the Tiger 1 / 1A part numbers are...

Tom
'67 Mark 2


On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Joel Martin via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Ron
>
> These casting numbers do not match my pedals at all - casting number of
> 1990300 verses 1224677 - LHD
> 1229806 for RHD.  Any ideas what 1990300 was suppose to fit?  Can you send
> me a photo of your pedals and the guesstimate of the space behind them to
> the firewall?  Anyone else have a opinion?
>
> Thanks
> Joel Martin
>
>
>
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>   1. Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space
>       (Joel Martin)
>   2. Re: Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space
>       ( Ron Fraser)
>   3. Re: Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space
>       (Tom Parker)
> Installed drivers seat today, and moved seat all the way to rear - comes
> right up to rear shelf on slider - good. I am 6'0" tall.  Concern is the
> amount of room between knees, stock steering wheel (15.3"), right knee to
> shift lever and the foot pedals.  With the clutch pushed in there is still
> about 8" left to the firewall with about 11" from brake pedal and the
> accelerator pedals to the firewall.
>
> Do we really have this much wasted foot well room from the end of the
> pedals to the firewall?  The brake pedal and the accelerator pedal are
> about even in the foot well with the clutch about 1" further 'out' than the
> other 2.
>
> Findings:  Both the brake and clutch pedal have the same casting number of
> 1990300 but with different bends entirely.  This seams unusual.  The Clutch
> bends to the left with only 1 available hole connecting to the pedal
> bracket.  The brake bends slightly to the right with 2 holes available
> connecting to the pedal bracket.  Both brackets look to be the same.
>
> Spacers at the master cylinders:  brake master has spacer between master
> and firewall.  Clutch master does not have spacer due to brake reservoir
> slightly to one side closest to clutch reservoir, so no spacer or the
> clutch master reservoir would contact brake master reservoir and would not
> bolt up..
>
> I see all this wasted foot well space and now wonder if I have the right
> pedals, brackets etc for this car.
>
> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards
> Joel Martin
>
>
>
> Joel
>
> Since these cars are both left & right hand drive capable; both side foot
> wells are similar and nearly symmetrical.
>
> There is only 1 part # for the clutch and brake pedal - 1224677 - LHD
> 1229806 for RHD
>
> They should have 1 hole for the pivot point and 2 holes for the clutch or
> brake push rod.
>
> It is very common in manufacturing of pedals to have 1 part, the forged
> base part which is then struck again to make different pedals.
>
> I found the foot well space behind the pedals to be very handy when
> driving long distance in cruise control - room to stretch my legs.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Joel
> Martin via Tigers
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 03, 2015 7:37 PM
> *To:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space
>
> Installed drivers seat today, and moved seat all the way to rear - comes
> right up to rear shelf on slider - good. I am 6'0" tall.  Concern is the
> amount of room between knees, stock steering wheel (15.3"), right knee to
> shift lever and the foot pedals.  With the clutch pushed in there is still
> about 8" left to the firewall with about 11" from brake pedal and the
> accelerator pedals to the firewall.
>
> Do we really have this much wasted foot well room from the end of the
> pedals to the firewall?  The brake pedal and the accelerator pedal are
> about even in the foot well with the clutch about 1" further 'out' than the
> other 2.
>
> Findings:  Both the brake and clutch pedal have the same casting number of
> 1990300 but with different bends entirely.  This seams unusual.  The Clutch
> bends to the left with only 1 available hole connecting to the pedal
> bracket.  The brake bends slightly to the right with 2 holes available
> connecting to the pedal bracket.  Both brackets look to be the same.
>
> Spacers at the master cylinders:  brake master has spacer between master
> and firewall.  Clutch master does not have spacer due to brake reservoir
> slightly to one side closest to clutch reservoir, so no spacer or the
> clutch master reservoir would contact brake master reservoir and would not
> bolt up..
>
> I see all this wasted foot well space and now wonder if I have the right
> pedals, brackets etc for this car.
>
> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards
> Joel Martin
>
>
>
> Joel,
>
> There doesn't seem to be much adjustment available for pedal height except
> the two holes on the foot pedal, which gains / costs you @ 1 1/2" of height
> according to Section K of the Tiger Workshop Manual. If the goal is to have
> all 3 pedals' height the same that's the base line... whichever hole you
> choose, and adjust the throttle pedal height to match the brake and clutch
> height. I don't think the original brake and clutch rods were adjustable...
> at least the diagram doesn't show it... but later / aftermarket cylinder
> pushrods may have an adjustment there.
>
> You're right, imo, the travel is far more than needed for full clutch /
> brake engagement, But with the Tiger tunnel mods it gets a bit tight the
> closer to the firewall the pedals get. I'm a little guy; the folks with big
> feet will have issues the lower the pedals. As it is it's easy to hit the
> brake and throttle at the same time until one gets used to the car.
>
> Anything can be accomplished with a drill press, but stock height, sadly,
> appears to be fixed.
>
> Tom
> '67 Mark 2
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Joel
>
> Since these cars are both left & right hand drive capable; both side foot
> wells are similar and nearly symmetrical.
>
> There is only 1 part # for the clutch and brake pedal - 1224677 - LHD
> 1229806 for RHD
>
> They should have 1 hole for the pivot point and 2 holes for the clutch or
> brake push rod.
>
> It is very common in manufacturing of pedals to have 1 part, the forged
> base part which is then struck again to make different pedals.
>
> I found the foot well space behind the pedals to be very handy when
> driving long distance in cruise control - room to stretch my legs.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Joel
> Martin via Tigers
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 03, 2015 7:37 PM
> *To:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space
>
> Installed drivers seat today, and moved seat all the way to rear - comes
> right up to rear shelf on slider - good. I am 6'0" tall.  Concern is the
> amount of room between knees, stock steering wheel (15.3"), right knee to
> shift lever and the foot pedals.  With the clutch pushed in there is still
> about 8" left to the firewall with about 11" from brake pedal and the
> accelerator pedals to the firewall.
>
> Do we really have this much wasted foot well room from the end of the
> pedals to the firewall?  The brake pedal and the accelerator pedal are
> about even in the foot well with the clutch about 1" further 'out' than the
> other 2.
>
> Findings:  Both the brake and clutch pedal have the same casting number of
> 1990300 but with different bends entirely.  This seams unusual.  The Clutch
> bends to the left with only 1 available hole connecting to the pedal
> bracket.  The brake bends slightly to the right with 2 holes available
> connecting to the pedal bracket.  Both brackets look to be the same.
>
> Spacers at the master cylinders:  brake master has spacer between master
> and firewall.  Clutch master does not have spacer due to brake reservoir
> slightly to one side closest to clutch reservoir, so no spacer or the
> clutch master reservoir would contact brake master reservoir and would not
> bolt up..
>
> I see all this wasted foot well space and now wonder if I have the right
> pedals, brackets etc for this car.
>
> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards
> Joel Martin
>
>
>
>
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