[Tigers] 260 for the 21 century

[Tom Witt]

“I always laugh at the guys with more modern cars, stock with massive power already...” 

Jay, you mean cars/people like this? http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/24/police-release-report-on-wreck-of-brand-new-60000-707-hp-2015-dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat/

From: Jay Laifman via Tigers 
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 11:49 AM
To: owain lloyd 
Cc: Tom Witt via Tigers 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] 260 for the 21 century

I always laugh at the guys with more modern cars, stock with massive power already (relative to our cars), who "chip" their cars.  I mean, what's the point?  They don't have "enough" power already to do serious damage to themselves or others?  They don't have "enough" power to have fun?  Blast freeway on ramps?  If they were truly RACING and needing extra power down the stretch or out of the corners because the other cars have that fraction of a second on them, OK, maybe it makes sense.  BUT, if they were really RACING, head to head racing, not just track days, that means there are classes.  And rest assured, a chipped car is going to be in the full modified class - which means a chip alone ain't going to make you competitive - you'd need full racing suspension, stripped dead weight, etc., etc. 

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

  Some us build engines for competition where the rules prevent you dumping any old cheap horsepower in the car and necessitate much more effort and expense to get power. 

  That said, I must admit that my tiger (road car) has a 482hp 347. ;)

  On Friday, June 19, 2015, Duke Samouce via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

    Thats why the 260 that came in my Tiger is sitting on an engine stand being restored as a OEM correct display engine.  Was making close to 190 HP when pulled.  As you all know, a built 347 now sits in the Tiger making ~450HP and many more smiles.  A 260 will never produce much HP no matter what you do to it.  Forced induction aside.

    Duke


    ---- Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
    > I've notice over the years a desire for many to build (up) a 260 engine in
    > the quest for more power. While I can grasp the desire to keep an original
    > car - original, it seems the 260 no longer remains original with the
    > modifications applied. So, I ask with nothing more than curiosity (no
    > condemnation) why the pursuit?  Is it the mentioned desire for originality
    > (at least to the block/heads that came in the car)? Is it simply the quest
    > for the most power out of a 260 (only)? Or???
    >
    > The reason I ask is that my overly practical, frugal nature sees a well
    > chosen, $150 junk yard roller cam 302 as producing a similar power result
    > for significantly less cost.  Now, I do have a 63 Rambler with an abysmal 6
    > cylinder motor (cast-in intake trough). And, yes, I've wonder just what can
    > be gotten out of that with modifications. But actually doing it goes against
    > my practical/frugal nature.
    >
    > Anyway, just curious as to why the 260 over a 302 build if power is the
    > desired result. Especially with the parts scarcity and additional costs.
    >
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