[Tigers] Stock oil filter set up leaks

Thu Jul 30 14:15:28 MDT 2015

MessageAndy,

The Tiger remote adapter has always been a problem.  Those of us who have wrestled with it for years have developed their own techniques for dealing with it.  Follow Ron’s advice re. splits, cuts, etc.  Also, degrease the filter before you attempt to reinstall.  You may have to hold the filter so that it doesn’t turn and you can’t do that if it’s covered with oil.  For the big bolt you referred to I use a 1 1/2” socket.  The socket was made for a 3/4” drive so I use a 3/4 – 1/2” adapter so I can use the socket with my 1/2” drive.  The adapter also forms a short extension so the drive clears most of the stuff under the hood when you swing it.  I wedge a small 2x4 block between the adapter top and the block to keep the adapter from turning.  If you have under-hood paint issues you may want to wrap the 2X4 in a rag.  In tightening the big bolt, recall that the filter is actually a spin-on filter.  Instructions for the filter say to snug the filter up and then give it 3/4 to 1 turn to tighten it.  Basically you want to do the equivalent but with the filter fixed and the bolt that screws into the filter turning 1 turn.  After snugging the bolt into the filter, make 1 turn on the bolt to tighten it.  You may have to hold on to the filter to keep it from turning while you do this.  It will take multiple swings of the ratchet to accomplish this 1 turn.  You should note the position of some part of the socket relative to the adapter body and ratchet the socket around until the socket reaches that position again (i.e. makes 1 revolution).  That should take care of the big bolt.  For the tube fitting that goes into the center of the adapter I use a 3/4” flair nut (tubing) crowsfoot adapter for a 3/8” drive and turn it with a short 3/8” breaker bar with a swivel connection on the end.  This combo is probably overkill but it does create an almost ideal tool for the job.  You’ll have to figure out what works for you.  Whatever scheme you come up with for dealing with this fitting, I would recommend that you not use an open end wrench for the job.  Every time the wrench slips it will round the flats on the fitting.  Eventually you will not be able to get it tight.

-Good luck..

Will - wseay at embarqmail.com
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From: Ron Fraser via Tigers 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 9:51 AM
To: 'Andy Walker' ; tigers at Autox.Team.Net 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Stock oil filter set up leaks

Andy

The fittings should tighten and not leak.

You should check to make sure you have not split or cut the washers.
Check to make sure the metal surfaces are flat for the gaskets.
You should also check the big bolt at top is not bottoming out too soon.   Install it without the washer to make sure it does not stop short of the metal adaptor.

I believe those are fiber washers; maybe copper washers would work better.(?)

1.410" = 35.8 mm

A 38 mm socket  may work OK.

The correct wrenches would be line wrenches or crowfoot line wrenches.
You would have to make your own 1.41" wrench.  Do you know anyone with a water jet cutter?

A water jet or laser cutting machine could make a special tool to fit this job.

Ron Fraser
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  From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andy Walker via Tigers
  Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 11:26 PM
  To: tigers at autox.team.net
  Subject: [Tigers] Stock oil filter set up leaks

  Hey, guys:

  First, the good news…I’ve got 60 lbs of pressure on the gauge when I spin up my oil pump with my electric drill.  For a stock oil pump, that’s great!!  That means that when I fire up my Tiger for the first time on Sunday (hopefully…) that I should have oil pressure running out my ears…which leads me to the bad news.  I’ve got a couple of oil leaks in the stock oil filter set-up, one of which is pretty bad.  The bad one is at the connection on top of the oil filter where the big bolt is that holds the filter to the housing.  The gasket is allowing the oil to just run out at a pretty good clip.  I’ve got that bolt twisted down pretty tightly but it continues to leak.  This is the first time that I’ve ever had an original oil filter set-up on a Tiger, so I’m unfamiliar with their oddities; are you supposed to use some sort of gasket sealer on that gasket between the shoulders of the bolt and the housing?  Is this a common problem with these stock filter rigs?

  The other leak is at the connection point between the short hose and the block adapter.  Hopefully, I’ll be able to tighten it up a bit and stop the leak, but the leak I mentioned above is so bad that there is no way that I can start the car before fixing it.  Any advice on how to properly seal that would be greatly appreciated.

  Oh, and by the way, I don’t have a proper-sized wrench for the oil filter bolt in question.  I mic’d it as best I could and it comes out to be something like a 1.410” in size.  All I’ve got that is big enough to do the job is an adjustable wrench, and even that is so long that I have to stand it up and grab the shoulders of the bolt with the ends of the jaws of the wrench.  What do you guys use on yours?

  Thanks much,

  Andy Walker

  Edmond, OK

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