[Spridgets] Iran, NATO and Europe - obviously no LBC

Fri Mar 20 10:20:15 MDT 2026

Because one day the politicians will come for our cars and force us to buy
something with a big battery in it?

On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 at 15:26, Monty Love via Spridgets <
spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:

> How about we keep our politics to ourselves on this list and try to enjoy
> the cars.
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 10:02 AM David Woerpel via Spridgets <
> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Amen to all both of you wrote. Especially Larry's closing plea.
>> I'm just beginning my 8th decade(79) and a student of history.  Our close
>> friends in Australia have the same fears and opinions as UK and Europe.
>> Different perspectives help us see the total picture.
>> 1st day of Spring!!  Approaching 60*F here in Cheeseland so may drop the
>> tank on the Bugeye to replace the sending unit seal. Hardest part is
>> emptying the boot.
>> Regards,
>>
>> DaveW
>>
>> '59:{)
>> '59 MGA 1500
>> 'Pay It Forward"
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 7:38 AM Larry Macy via Spridgets <
>> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Daniel,
>>>
>>> Well stated and thought from the British POV. I agree with your points,
>>> but would like to insert one clarification. It is not America that is
>>> insulting and bitching at NATO countries.
>>>
>>> I have been around for nearly 7 decades and this is the absolute worst
>>> relationship between our NATO allies and the US I have ever seen in those
>>> decades. Treating Russia as a “friend” over NATO, Iran and Ukraine is the
>>> bottom of the barrel in my opinion.
>>>
>>> This is my opinion, and so far, in the US, I am still allowed to have
>>> one.
>>>
>>> Spridgeteers, Please don’t t make this a mess. It is simply the opinion
>>> of an Englishman and an American.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2026, at 6:33 AM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
>>> spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi List,
>>>
>>> I wanted to post some thoughts on Iran, NATO and Europe that simply
>>> aren't being reported on national news, as far as I can tell, whose
>>> reporters seem to have no idea of analysis or wider impacts.
>>>
>>> The news isn't saying much about how much help Iran has had and
>>> continues to have from Russia and China, the latter especially.  I believe
>>> that Iran is an evil regime supported (English phrase: aided and abetted)
>>> over decades by Russia and China.  I have heard that Chinese technicians
>>> aiding Iran firing missiles have been killed.  So if America decides to
>>> attack Iran that's ok by me in a broad sense.  Iran with nuclear weapons
>>> would be a disaster for the world.
>>>
>>> NATO is about defence and its membership agreement makes that clear.
>>> NATO is not a force multiplier to call upon when a member's aggression
>>> needs some backup.  Yes, the USA puts more money into NATO than any other
>>> country and arguably it has had the most back.  Europe provided the buffer
>>> for the USA against the USSR and I guess that was a price the USA decided
>>> was worth paying.  Well times change and the USSR not longer exists but
>>> former members are a threat.  The flipside to the coin that isn't discussed
>>> is not whether all the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple do)
>>> but could America spend less?
>>>
>>> America has stated that China rather that Russia are the real threats
>>> and attacking Iran weakens China considerably though news commentators
>>> aren't saying so.  America seems to continue to be well disposed to Mr
>>> Putin and Russia and seem to ignore the large part of aid Russia has given
>>> to Iran.  Well I guess it might be in America's interest to say little and
>>> not state what is close to being obvious.
>>>
>>> What makes no sense and is baseless criticism is to insult NATO and
>>> European countries (who get very little oil and gas from Iran) for not
>>> answering a call to aid from America.  It is India, China and other eastern
>>> countries who are not going their oil from the Gulf, not NATO and European
>>> countries.  It's also worth considering what countries are in NATO.  Well
>>> Canada is in NATO and so is Denmark (who count Greenland as part of its
>>> territory) and they have good grounds for not rushing to the assistance of
>>> the USA.  What about the European countries in NATO?  Well they are still
>>> very focused on supporting Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still
>>> Russian aggression and threat - something that America thinks they ought to
>>> be doing.
>>>
>>> It is never good sense to insult your friends and allies, or falsely
>>> accuse them.  And while you might publicly state they aren't helping and
>>> are free loaders, the truth and reality is quite different.  However, spend
>>> enough time and energy publicly criticising them and there is a real risk
>>> you'll discover how much they DID do when they decide to do a lot less or
>>> nothing for you in the future.  Google RAF Croughton and see not only how
>>> important that is to America but the controversy caused by a fatal road
>>> accident that made everything connected to that site unpopular.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Daniel S
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>>> —
>>>
>>> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
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>>>
>>>
>>> “Remember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet,” he
>>> said. “Try to make sense of what you see and about what makes the
>>> universe exist. Be curious. And however difficult life may seem, there is
>>> always something you can do, and succeed at. It matters that you don’t just
>>> give up.”
>>> ~Stephen Hawking
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