[Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net

[Sheryl]

1. A big thanks to Greg. He has done a lot.
2. Do you notice that we can all use/abuse this and not one message has been 
dropped? The club email list is *still* working just fine and is not broken. 
Perhaps we should send over a little $$. He is not asking for that much. 

Ever try not putting wood in your wood stove and demanding heat? "I'll give you 
some wood when you put out some warmth!"
3. Take a deep breath and relax a little. The cars are wonderful. All of you are 
great. 

4. Maybe 'save as draft' and re-check a reply before you send to the group.

"if it ain't broke, don't fix it"

So far, everything is (sort of) the same as it was in the middle of summer.
Allow some time (for computer-based @#$%) and keep on driving the LBC you love! 

Sheryl and Dennis




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From: Greg Tatarian <gtwincams at gmail.com>
To: nobbc at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, October 11, 2011 7:05:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net

Hi Dean,

Good points about Mark, thanks. You're right, this is supposed to be a fun club, 
which is why I sent an earlier email about how to use this forum in a 
responsible way. My comments on trying to communicate with Mark should not be 
lumped with the other comments about other topics by other members recently.

I am also unpaid for my volunteer efforts, yet have spent about 45 hours since 
Ron's passing (while also running my business), working on all of the 
administrative issues for the club, along with helping Ron's widow get his car 
running and sold and trying to help connect her with helpful resources. I've 
also held club parties and tech sessions at my house and elsewhere, and led 
numerous drives, all as a volunteer member of the club, which I think shows I 
have invested a lot in the NOBBC over the past 6-7 years.

The club now has about 140 members, with this being the main way to communicate 
among ourselves. I don't think Ron wanted the club to die with him, but access 
to most of our resources have suffered as a result. We still have a web site we 
have little control over, an email forum with no moderator control, and a 
Facebook account with no moderator control. It's easier to just let things flow 
when there are 20-30 members but now that there is a web presence, social 
networking, and all of this with no way for me, also an unpaid volunteer, to 
handle the duties, you might be able to understand my frustration at Mark not 
responding to 7 or 8 very friendly, very polite emails.

I have also asked you previously for the information on the club web hosting 
service that you so generously pay for (and I regularly remind members about 
your ongoing contribution, Dean) since Tcherek is ready to pass on the web 
mistress job. Would it be possible to get that information from you so that we 
can make that transition? Tcherek has done a very kind service for free for our 
club over the years, but is ready to hand it over. Better yet, could you notify 
the web hosting service that the password has been lost and establish a new one 
so we can edit the web site?

It would be great to keep our email forum with Mark, because it's text-based, 
simple, and free, and would make my life easier, if we can make it work. I'm 
just trying to help, Dean, and not slamming anyone. I asked you in the very 
beginning if you objected to my stepping in to take over these duties, and you 
didn't indicate you had a problem with it, but if you do, please let me know 
before I spend more of my time if you would prefer yourself or someone else do 
this work.

Greg



On 10/10/2011 8:49 PM, D Paige wrote:
> Keep in mind all of you that Mark has kept groups going on at least 20 years
> that support British cars of many stripes and types and Marquea. He makes no
> $$$ on his efforts and at least from my point of view the lists he supports
> are a valuable source for all of our cars. If you haven't logged into the
> group for your Marque you are missing a great asset. I send some $$ every
> year and will continue to. Marc does have to make a living like all of us
> and he does the LBCs marques a great service. I think that Ron is turning in
> his grave over the carping over the small stuff.
> 
> The grousing over the past weeks on a couple of minor issues has disturbed
> me as a founding member of NOBBC with many of you being downright nasty the
> small stuff. That does not bode well. Get a grip folks this is supposed to
> be fun. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. CHILL!!!
> 
> Deano
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