[Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net

[Mike Gianandrea]

Hi Greg,

My two cents.

A freebie job is a thankless job at best, certainly in this situation, so 
thank you very much for picking up the reigns on this and keeping the club 
together. But as you point out, it requires a lot of time and effort to keep 
things rolling, and your time is precious, being self employed. I give you 
this suggestion, if you have his number, call Mark tomorrow AM, before 8 
o'clock, and if you can't raise him, then let'e set up an account with 
Yahoo, and move on. If Mark is unresponsive, and Yahoo has the resources we 
need at no cost, then it's a simple decision. We can communicate via email, 
post pics and notices etc., not have to wait for someone who doesn't care 
enough to reply. You are doing a wonderful job so far, and spending too much 
time running in circles. I would be willing to send Mark a contribution for 
his services, but if he is not providing that service, let's save our money 
and move on.

Michael Gianandrea
64 TR4
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Tatarian" <gtwincams at gmail.com>
To: <nobbc at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net


> Hi Dean,
>
> Good points about Mark, thanks. You're right, this is supposed to be a fun 
> club, which is why I sent an earlier email about how to use this forum in 
> a responsible way. My comments on trying to communicate with Mark should 
> not be lumped with the other comments about other topics by other members 
> recently.
>
> I am also unpaid for my volunteer efforts, yet have spent about 45 hours 
> since Ron's passing (while also running my business), working on all of 
> the administrative issues for the club, along with helping Ron's widow get 
> his car running and sold and trying to help connect her with helpful 
> resources. I've also held club parties and tech sessions at my house and 
> elsewhere, and led numerous drives, all as a volunteer member of the club, 
> which I think shows I have invested a lot in the NOBBC over the past 6-7 
> years.
>
> The club now has about 140 members, with this being the main way to 
> communicate among ourselves. I don't think Ron wanted the club to die with 
> him, but access to most of our resources have suffered as a result. We 
> still have a web site we have little control over, an email forum with no 
> moderator control, and a Facebook account with no moderator control. It's 
> easier to just let things flow when there are 20-30 members but now that 
> there is a web presence, social networking, and all of this with no way 
> for me, also an unpaid volunteer, to handle the duties, you might be able 
> to understand my frustration at Mark not responding to 7 or 8 very 
> friendly, very polite emails.
>
> I have also asked you previously for the information on the club web 
> hosting service that you so generously pay for (and I regularly remind 
> members about your ongoing contribution, Dean) since Tcherek is ready to 
> pass on the web mistress job. Would it be possible to get that information 
> from you so that we can make that transition? Tcherek has done a very kind 
> service for free for our club over the years, but is ready to hand it 
> over. Better yet, could you notify the web hosting service that the 
> password has been lost and establish a new one so we can edit the web 
> site?
>
> It would be great to keep our email forum with Mark, because it's 
> text-based, simple, and free, and would make my life easier, if we can 
> make it work. I'm just trying to help, Dean, and not slamming anyone. I 
> asked you in the very beginning if you objected to my stepping in to take 
> over these duties, and you didn't indicate you had a problem with it, but 
> if you do, please let me know before I spend more of my time if you would 
> prefer yourself or someone else do this work.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> On 10/10/2011 8:49 PM, D Paige wrote:
>> Keep in mind all of you that Mark has kept groups going on at least 20 
>> years
>> that support British cars of many stripes and types and Marquea. He makes 
>> no
>> $$$ on his efforts and at least from my point of view the lists he 
>> supports
>> are a valuable source for all of our cars. If you haven't logged into the
>> group for your Marque you are missing a great asset. I send some $$ every
>> year and will continue to. Marc does have to make a living like all of us
>> and he does the LBCs marques a great service. I think that Ron is turning 
>> in
>> his grave over the carping over the small stuff.
>>
>> The grousing over the past weeks on a couple of minor issues has 
>> disturbed
>> me as a founding member of NOBBC with many of you being downright nasty 
>> the
>> small stuff. That does not bode well. Get a grip folks this is supposed 
>> to
>> be fun. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. CHILL!!!
>>
>> Deano
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