[Nobbc] Fund raising for autox.team.net

[Greg Tatarian]

Hi Dean,

Good points about Mark, thanks. You're right, this is supposed to be a 
fun club, which is why I sent an earlier email about how to use this 
forum in a responsible way. My comments on trying to communicate with 
Mark should not be lumped with the other comments about other topics by 
other members recently.

I am also unpaid for my volunteer efforts, yet have spent about 45 hours 
since Ron's passing (while also running my business), working on all of 
the administrative issues for the club, along with helping Ron's widow 
get his car running and sold and trying to help connect her with helpful 
resources. I've also held club parties and tech sessions at my house and 
elsewhere, and led numerous drives, all as a volunteer member of the 
club, which I think shows I have invested a lot in the NOBBC over the 
past 6-7 years.

The club now has about 140 members, with this being the main way to 
communicate among ourselves. I don't think Ron wanted the club to die 
with him, but access to most of our resources have suffered as a result. 
We still have a web site we have little control over, an email forum 
with no moderator control, and a Facebook account with no moderator 
control. It's easier to just let things flow when there are 20-30 
members but now that there is a web presence, social networking, and all 
of this with no way for me, also an unpaid volunteer, to handle the 
duties, you might be able to understand my frustration at Mark not 
responding to 7 or 8 very friendly, very polite emails.

I have also asked you previously for the information on the club web 
hosting service that you so generously pay for (and I regularly remind 
members about your ongoing contribution, Dean) since Tcherek is ready to 
pass on the web mistress job. Would it be possible to get that 
information from you so that we can make that transition? Tcherek has 
done a very kind service for free for our club over the years, but is 
ready to hand it over. Better yet, could you notify the web hosting 
service that the password has been lost and establish a new one so we 
can edit the web site?

It would be great to keep our email forum with Mark, because it's 
text-based, simple, and free, and would make my life easier, if we can 
make it work. I'm just trying to help, Dean, and not slamming anyone. I 
asked you in the very beginning if you objected to my stepping in to 
take over these duties, and you didn't indicate you had a problem with 
it, but if you do, please let me know before I spend more of my time if 
you would prefer yourself or someone else do this work.

Greg



On 10/10/2011 8:49 PM, D Paige wrote:
> Keep in mind all of you that Mark has kept groups going on at least 20 years
> that support British cars of many stripes and types and Marquea. He makes no
> $$$ on his efforts and at least from my point of view the lists he supports
> are a valuable source for all of our cars. If you haven't logged into the
> group for your Marque you are missing a great asset. I send some $$ every
> year and will continue to. Marc does have to make a living like all of us
> and he does the LBCs marques a great service. I think that Ron is turning in
> his grave over the carping over the small stuff.
>
> The grousing over the past weeks on a couple of minor issues has disturbed
> me as a founding member of NOBBC with many of you being downright nasty the
> small stuff. That does not bode well. Get a grip folks this is supposed to
> be fun. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. CHILL!!!
>
> Deano