[Mgs] Slow cranking, was Siphoning Gas

[Richard Lindsay]

My vote is to have your local shop do the rebuild. Turn the commutator on
the lathe and replace the brushes.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 7:48 AM <h.duinhoven at planet.nl> wrote:

>
>
> I measured the voltage on the posts while cranking = 10,5 volts. It is on
> a digital meter, so I wonder if that’s a good value.
>
> The same value is measured on the starter ingoing post.
>
> So no tension loss on the electrical circuits.
>
>
> Now there is a discussion:
>
> Repair the starter or buy a new one.
>
> High torque starter = € 325,00, which is pricy
>
> Original starter on exchange base = € 200,00
>
> New starter Powerlite = € 239,00
>
> New starter looking like a Lucas (white labelled) = € 135,00
>
>
>
>
> https://www.octagonparts.nl/product-categorie/mgb/electrical-mgb/starting-system-mgb-electrical-mgb/
>
>
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> https://www.angloparts.com/en/catalogues/part/26883/082.024
>
>
>
> There is a local electrical car parts repair shop, where the alternator
> has been repaired +/- 10 years ago.
>
> They did a good job.
>
> I assume they can fix the starter as well, but what is better – a new one
> (Angloparts = € 152 or € 135,00 at octagonparts) or have the original
> repaired…
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hans
>
>
>
> *Van:* PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 10 november 2020 11:41
> *Aan:* h.duinhoven at planet.nl
> *CC:* 'mglist' <mgs at autox.team.net>; 'MGB-Yahoo' <mg-mgb at yahoogroups.com>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] Slow cranking, was Siphoning Gas
>
>
>
> Yes, measure the voltage right on the battery posts (adding the two
> voltages together if twin 6v batteries) when cranking, then compare that
> with the voltage at the battery cable stud on the solenoid and starter body
> when cranking.  The difference between the two is what is being lost in the
> connections, a volt or so is normal but it shouldn't be much more than that.
>
>
>
> If you get much less than 10v at the battery posts then that is the
> problem.
>
>
>
> PaulH.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
>
> Next job is the slow starter motor.
>
> I already cleaned the battery posts clamps and the post of the battery to
> chassis cable.
>
> Also cleaned thoroughly the chassis to engine cable.
>
> Nothing helped so far.
>
> So next will be verifying the battery voltage when cranking. I assume it
> will be o.k. as the battery is new.
>
> Following step will be measuring the voltage over the starter motor +12V
> to the engine.
>
> When o.k., the starter is suspect. As it never was overhauled, this is
> logical.
>
> Nice winter job.
>
>
>
> *Van:* Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> *Namens *Dan DiBiase
> *Verzonden:* donderdag 22 oktober 2020 22:26
> *Aan:* Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>
> *CC:* mglist <mgs at autox.team.net>; MGB-Yahoo <mg-mgb at yahoogroups.com>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] Siphoning Gas
>
>
>
> OMG, duh! Thanks to all that replied with this excellent (and obvious,
> now!) advice..............................
>
>
>
> Dan D
>
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 4:13 PM Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I had the same problem. I disconnected the fuel hose, added a a long bit
> of hose and with the coil disconnected, used the fuel pump to pump old fuel
> into jugs.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:02 PM Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all.... My '76B, which was off the road for 5 years, was recently
> returned to me from the shop. They added some new gas but did not siphon
> out the 5 year old gas (which was just under 1/2 tank when I had it towed
> in. The car is running pretty rough so I want to siphon out most of the gas
> before I fill it up. It is currently showing as just under 1/2 tank, so
> around 6 gallons or a little less (assuming gauge accuracy).
>
>
>
> I was able to pump out about 2 gallons but am wondering if the interior of
> the tank is baffled, as I can't seem to move the hose beyond a certain area
> and it's not sucking up any additional gas. Would really like to remove a
> couple more gallons before I fill it up.
>
>
>
> Thx,
>
>
>
> Dan D
>
> '76B-  Getting There
>
> '65B - Waiting It's Turn
>
> Central NJ USA
>
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
>
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