<div dir="auto">My vote is to have your local shop do the rebuild. Turn the commutator on the lathe and replace the brushes.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 7:48 AM <<a href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="white" lang="NL" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class="m_-633492779099770990WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I measured the voltage on the posts while cranking = 10,5 volts. It is on a digital meter, so I wonder if that’s a good value.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The same value is measured on the starter ingoing post.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">So no tension loss on the electrical circuits.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><br>Now there is a discussion:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Repair the starter or buy a new one.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">High torque starter = € 325,00, which is pricy<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Original starter on exchange base = € 200,00<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">New starter Powerlite = € 239,00<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">New starter looking like a Lucas (white labelled) = € 135,00<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><a href="https://www.octagonparts.nl/product-categorie/mgb/electrical-mgb/starting-system-mgb-electrical-mgb/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.octagonparts.nl/product-categorie/mgb/electrical-mgb/starting-system-mgb-electrical-mgb/</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><a href="https://www.angloparts.com/en/catalogues/part/26883/082.024" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.angloparts.com/en/catalogues/part/26883/082.024</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">There is a local electrical car parts repair shop, where the alternator has been repaired +/- 10 years ago.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">They did a good job.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I assume they can fix the starter as well, but what is better – a new one (Angloparts = € 152 or € 135,00 at octagonparts) or have the original repaired…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hans <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Van:</b> PaulHunt73 <<a href="mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">paulhunt73@virginmedia.com</a>> <br><b>Verzonden:</b> dinsdag 10 november 2020 11:41<br><b>Aan:</b> <a href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a><br><b>CC:</b> 'mglist' <<a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mgs@autox.team.net</a>>; 'MGB-Yahoo' <<a href="mailto:mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com</a>><br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Slow cranking, was Siphoning Gas<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Yes, measure the voltage right on the battery posts (adding the two voltages together if twin 6v batteries) when cranking, then compare that with the voltage at the battery cable stud on the solenoid and starter body when cranking. The difference between the two is what is being lost in the connections, a volt or so is normal but it shouldn't be much more than that.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">If you get much less than 10v at the battery posts then that is the problem.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">PaulH.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">----- Original Message ----- <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#e4e4e4"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Next job is the slow starter motor. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I already cleaned the battery posts clamps and the post of the battery to chassis cable.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Also cleaned thoroughly the chassis to engine cable. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Nothing helped so far.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">So next will be verifying the battery voltage when cranking. I assume it will be o.k. as the battery is new.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Following step will be measuring the voltage over the starter motor +12V to the engine.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">When o.k., the starter is suspect. As it never was overhauled, this is logical.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Nice winter job.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Van:</b> Mgs <<a href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>Namens </b>Dan DiBiase<br><b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 22 oktober 2020 22:26<br><b>Aan:</b> Richard Lindsay <<a href="mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">richardolindsay@gmail.com</a>><br><b>CC:</b> mglist <<a href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mgs@autox.team.net</a>>; MGB-Yahoo <<a href="mailto:mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com</a>><br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Siphoning Gas<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">OMG, duh! Thanks to all that replied with this excellent (and obvious, now!) advice..............................<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Dan D<br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 4:13 PM Richard Lindsay <<a href="mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">richardolindsay@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">I had the same problem. I disconnected the fuel hose, added a a long bit of hose and with the coil disconnected, used the fuel pump to pump old fuel into jugs.<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:02 PM Dan DiBiase <<a href="mailto:dan.dibiase@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dan.dibiase@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi all.... My '76B, which was off the road for 5 years, was recently returned to me from the shop. They added some new gas but did not siphon out the 5 year old gas (which was just under 1/2 tank when I had it towed in. The car is running pretty rough so I want to siphon out most of the gas before I fill it up. It is currently showing as just under 1/2 tank, so around 6 gallons or a little less (assuming gauge accuracy). <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I was able to pump out about 2 gallons but am wondering if the interior of the tank is baffled, as I can't seem to move the hose beyond a certain area and it's not sucking up any additional gas. Would really like to remove a couple more gallons before I fill it up.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thx, <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Dan D<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">'76B- Getting There<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">'65B - Waiting It's Turn<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Central NJ USA<br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Mgs@autox.team.net</a><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.75<br><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/richardolindsay@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/richardolindsay@gmail.com</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><div id="m_-633492779099770990DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><table border="1" cellspacing="3" cellpadding="0" style="border:none;border-top:solid #d3d4de 1.0pt"><tr><td width="55" style="width:41.25pt;border:none;padding:13.5pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="46" height="29" style="width:.4833in;height:.3in" id="m_-633492779099770990_x0000_i1026" src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"></span></a><u></u><u></u></p></td><td width="470" style="width:352.5pt;border:none;padding:12.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.5pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#41424e">Virusvrij. <a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="color:#4453ea">www.avast.com</span></a> <u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr></table></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Mgs@autox.team.net</a><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation $12.75<br><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/paulhunt73@virginmedia.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/paulhunt73@virginmedia.com</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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