[Mgs] oil

Max Heim mvheim at sonic.net
Wed Jun 19 10:52:35 MDT 2019 

I don't want to quibble, but I think “less than expected” or “insufficient” are also perfectly valid meanings. If I lack money to pay my bills, that doesn’t mean I have absolutely zero money to my name. I just don't have enough.

I would say that the “not intended for passenger vehicles” part of the quote justifies my “insufficient” assumption. What else could it be referring to? “Too much” anti-friction or anti-wear? Hardly.

Again, I wasn’t actually criiticizing the idea of using this oil. Lower level of detergent isn’t an engine-killer, if you change the oil regularly. I just know that a lot of people drive their vintage cars infrequently and irregularly, and may not change the oil all that often, so I would hesitate to recommend it as the first option, since there are other alternatives available.

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Max Heim
'66 MGB

> On Jun 19, 2019, at 9:38 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38 at twc.com> wrote:
> 
> Okay but you said "lack of detergents" and to me that says no detergents because it's the most common usage of the word.
> 
> CR   
> 
> On 6/19/2019 11:27 AM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>> Quote from the first paragraph of the FAQ:
>> 
>> The Valvoline VR1 Racing and other racing oils <https://www.valvoline.com/our-products/motor-oil> not intended for passenger vehicles contain additional additives for increased horsepower and reduced friction on metal parts, provide extra wear protection for high compression/higher horsepower engines, and include fewer detergents than regular conventional motor oils.
>> 
>> So, that answers that question. If you change your oil frequently, it probably isn’t a problem, though.
>> 
>> I have used racing oil in the transmission, however, because reduced friction and wear protection are relevant concepts, and detergent is pointless (since no combustion blow-by).
>> 
>> 
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>> --
>> Max Heim
>> '66 MGB
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 19, 2019, at 8:37 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38 at twc.com <mailto:Charley38 at twc.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> VR1 contains an additive package. I would hope there's a detergent in it, because it's what I'm using. 
>>>   Viz: https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil-faq <https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil-faq>
>>> 
>>> CR
>>> 
>>> On 6/17/2019 5:06 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Valvoline VR1 Racing Oil is one (although it may be non-optimal for other reasons, such as lack of detergent)
>>>> Mobil1 Synthetic 15W50 (this weight ONLY in this brand)
>>>> Certain weights from Kendall, Royal Purple, Gibbs
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Max Heim
>>>> '66 MGB
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 17, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Bert Palte via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, also over here in Europe it has become less easily available.
>>>>> If nothing else is available, 10W40 will do.
>>>>> I use mineral oil. That is good enough, our cars aren't high tech!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bert 
>>>>> 70 B 
>>>>> SA4BRL 
>>>>> PA0LPS
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>>>> On 2019-06-17, 23:19 dave via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>>>> I’ve been using Valvoline 20w 50 full synthetic for several years now, and it used to be immediately available from Amazon with free shipping.  It has zddp.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Now its 1 to 2 months.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> However – Advanced Auto Parts - https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w-50-full-synthetic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=valvoline+20w-50+full+synthetic <https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w-50-full-synthetic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=valvoline+20w-50+full+synthetic>
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> free shipping with a minimum order of $25, which is 3 quarts.  You can buy it any number of quarts (from Amazon it’s a 6 pack), and it’s a couple pennies cheaper!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
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