[Mgs] Steering Wheel

Murray Arundell arundell at ghs.com.au
Thu Mar 4 23:41:47 MST 2010


If the airbags did not deploy then its fair to say that the impacts  
were not sufficiently intense to require airbags.  Airbags DO NOT  
deploy in all accidents.

Murray A.

On 05/03/2010, at 4:13 PM, Charley Robinson wrote:

> I have 2 cars that have been involved in front end accident in which  
> the air
> bags did not deploy - both Audi's - both totaled in the accidents.  
> in both
> instances the warning lights indicated all was well with the  
> systems. I'm not
> at all certain that an air bag will deploy regardless of what the  
> fail-safe
> computer tells you. Unless we can just chock that up to bad German
> engineering.
>
> Charley
>
>
> On Mar 4, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Richard Ewald wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Douglas McKinnie <d.mckinnie at usa.net>
> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm pondering this half with my engineer's hat (is possible/this  
>>> going to
>>> be
>>> dangerous?) and half with my psychologists hat --
>>
>>
>>> "everyone knows that car's with airbags are safer, and this car  
>>> now has an
>>> airbag, so therefore it is safer"
>>
>>
>> I taught design, function, and repairs on airbag systems for 15  
>> years.
>> Personally I would be very reluctant to try and retrofit an airbag  
>> system
>> (any airbag system) into a car that was not designed for it.
>> I mean just starting with the wheel, is the diameter of the shaft  
>> and the
>> spline count the same?  What effects would an airbag deployment  
>> have on the
>> column, and other interior pieces around the column?  Is it a  
>> tethered bag
>> or an untethered bag? How big is the bag?
>> And finally the two biggies 1. How will you know the effects in a  
>> crash
>> without a crash test? 2. How do you know the car is safer?
>>
>>>
>>> For the latter, all I really need is a convincing pillow on the
>>> steering-wheel
>>> with a nice "airbag" or "Restraint-system" logo. Whether it is  
>>> functional
>>> is
>>> immaterial. Have any of you tested your air-bags to see if the  
>>> actually
>>> work?
>>> Then why are you convinced they will?
>>>
>>
>> Well I don't know about your car, but yeah I can be pretty damn  
>> close to
>> 100% sure my bags will go off when needed.  The normal condition of  
>> the
>> warning light is on, the SRS system will only turn it off is all is  
>> OK..
> The
>> entire system checks itself 4X second.  If a fault is recorded for  
>> 40 or
>> more of these checks, the SRS light is turned on. In addition a  
>> plain text
>> message is displayed that there is an SRS fault.
>> So unless the accident occurs <10 seconds after the fault occurs, the
> system
>> will work as advertised.  So yeah I am convinced.
>> Rick
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