[Mgs] wanted - now DSG 7 speed

Hans Duinhoven h.duinhoven at planet.nl
Mon Feb 1 12:45:46 MST 2010


Dan,

I think you're right.
I got the name from a basic A4 configuration and I assume Audi will not use
traditional automatic gearboxes anymore.

Cheers,

Hans

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Dan DiBiase
  To: Hans Duinhoven ; ccrobins at ktc.com ; Paul Hunt
  Cc: mgs at Autox.Team.Net
  Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [Mgs] wanted - now DSG 7 speed


  Actually, Hans, Tiptronic is the regular Audi automatic transmission with
manual shift feature. Their version of the
  DSG was called S-Tronic. Not sure if it still is, or if they just call it
DSG now as well. But Tiptronic isn't it....


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  From: Hans Duinhoven <h.duinhoven at planet.nl>
  To: ccrobins at ktc.com; Paul Hunt <paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk>
  Cc: mgs at Autox.Team.Net
  Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 2:24:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mgs] wanted - now DSG 7 speed

  I never studied the DSG principles, but
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-Shift_Gearbox gives a nice explanation.
BTW Audi calls this gearbox Tip-Tronic


  Cheers,

  Hans
  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charley & Peggy Robinson"
<ccrobins at ktc.com>
  To: "Paul Hunt" <paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk>
  Cc: "Hans Duinhoven" <h.duinhoven at planet.nl>; <mgs at Autox.Team.Net>
  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mgs] wanted - now DSG 7 speed


  > The Prius will sort of freewheel with the engine shut down at speed below
~40 mph.  It's called "gliding" by those who know how to extract this behavior
from the car.  It isn't really freewheeling, it's a matter of MG1 spinning at
a speed that allows the engine to cease rotation - possible in a 3-way
planetary gearset.
  >
  > Have you read up on how the DSG gearbox(s) work?
  >
  >  CR
  >
  > On 1/30/2010 10:31 AM, Paul Hunt wrote:
  >> Interesting if the designers have decided to freewheel and keep the
engine ticking over rather than keep the momentum of the car spinning the
engine and shut off the fuel completely, it implies the former is more
economical. Mind you if you have stop/start then it could do both i.e. use no
fuel *and* have minimum drag.  The computer restarting the engine and matching
revs to road speed as well as engaging the appropriate gear and clutch.
  >>
  >> PaulH.
  >>
  >> ----- Original Message -----
  >>> ... This gearbox gets into a "free" coasting state whenever the speed is
over 20 Km/h or higher and the throttle pedal is fully released.
  >>> But whenever I apply the brakepedal, the DG box immediately engages the
right gearnumber for the current speed.
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