<< *BTW, after all the years they have been in business, there aren't many mistakes left in the Moss catalog!!!* >> But Lawrie, is the 'thumb' [ or 'big toe' ] GONE ?!?!?!?!? Anon PS: Yep, I know: Stir, stir, stir, ................. ! ! ! PPS: I used both "digits" as I have heard BOTH used to describe !?!?!?