[Land-speed] Running an Automatic Trans without a Torque Converter

Larry Mayfield drmayf at mayfco.com
Thu Dec 1 12:24:31 MST 2011


I believe James was talking about sprint dirt cars and their having to 
move around in the pits.  I have looked though the rule book and see no 
reference to a working reverse gear. However, I am bating zero today and 
so this could be simple one more mistake on my part.


How about it, LSR fans... any requirement to have a working reverse gear 
in all  or any vehicles except special construction or motorcycles?

mayf

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On 12/1/2011 9:29 AM, Dave Dahlgren wrote:
> I think there was mention of a working reverse gear from James Tone 
> how can you do that for push start only? Or I did not understand if it 
> was required or optional. Might check the rule book or with inspectors 
> on that one. I had thought and possibly wrong that other than special 
> construction and motorcycle you had to have a reverse gear.
> Dave
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Mayfield
> To: Dave Dahlgren
> Cc: land-speed at autox.team.net
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 11:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Running an Automatic Trans without a Torque 
> Converter
>
>
> Hmm, not sure where in my request for parts info and or experience 
> running a trans without a TC, I mentioned the need for a flywheel, 
> clutch, clutch pedal or anything else like that.  Looking for a direct 
> coupling that connects teh crankshaft directly to the input shafts on 
> teh rans and also provides for the trans front fluid pump.  Made for 
> 'glides and I know of a number of folk who use them. Bell housing is 
> empty except for maybe a flex plate  for starter operation. Noting 
> else in there. Does require a push start off the line but for B'ville 
> that's ok with me.
>
> So, I do not understand the comment regards all the other stuff.
>
> mayf
>
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> drmayf
> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit speed
>
> On 12/1/2011 7:25 AM, Dave Dahlgren wrote:
> By the time you buy the parts make all the mods to put a clutch in 
> front of the automatic then buy a clutch flywheel master cylinder 
> clutch cylinder throwout bearing clutch pedal assembly and appropriate 
> scatter sheild you will be money behind and have more parts to hurt 
> you than you had. For low cost buy a race converter that is made for 
> what you want to do. It also depends on the gear ratios in your 
> transmission and what the torgue multiplication was doing to help you 
> as well. Years ago I played with a 'clutch flight' and it was a 
> tinkerer's nightmare and the car was not faster in any way it just 
> broke more often.
> Dave
> 527 mph @38000 ft row 14 seat A


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