[Land-speed] Buckeye Bullet

drmayf drmayf at mayfco.com
Tue Sep 29 11:52:00 MDT 2009


Not forgotten as that is the Ford Fusion I mention in the question. And 
it was not hydrogen powered. It used electric motors to drive the car.  
That is part and parcel of the question being discussed...

mayf
speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote:

> Didn't you guys forget Rick Byrnes and the Ford. He went 200 with a 
> hydrogen power vehicle.
> GB
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
> To: "LSR" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:29 AM
> Subject: [Land-speed] Buckeye Bullet
>
>
>> Dale Pulju sent me a note about the Buckeye Bullet setting a record 
>> of 300 + mph with Hydrogen.  Now this brings an interesting question 
>> or two. But first, I say well done to that effort!  Now the 
>> questions: they  had previously set a record using batteries. 
>> Batteries are electric storage devices. So the record was listed as 
>> an electrical record. Good enough I say. But now another record is 
>> claimed as a hydrogen record. Yet the car's drive system was 
>> electrical.  Hydrogen (actually hydrogen and oxygen mix) was used to 
>> produce electricity which powered the car.  So was the original 
>> record using batteries really a gasoline record because the batteries 
>> that supplied the power were charged via some generator? Or Nuke 
>> because the electrons came from that?  With the H2O2 and the fuel 
>> cells generating electrons I believe that the record is really an 
>> electrical one.  Think hard about this. Do the rule making 
>> authorities need new definitions of what actually powers a vehicle?  
>> Take  a hybrid vehicle. Doesn't the gasoline motor provide most of 
>> the power? If so, why is it called a hybrid?  If I could put a 
>> gasoline powered generator in a car and use the gen power to run the 
>> electric motor that drives the wheels, would that be electrical or 
>> fossil fuel powered?  It cannot run without gasoline so is it defined 
>> as a petroleum powered car or electrical. Isn't that what a hybrid 
>> is?  Me, I think that the drive mechanism has to be primarily fueled 
>> by something directly and that should be the definition. for instance 
>> the car that Jesse James used had a true hydrogen motor. The fuel was 
>> directly powering the vehicle.  The Ford Fusion and the Buckeye 
>> Bullet used electric drive to move the vehicle and I think that is 
>> electrical. Not hydrogen.
>>
>>
>> Any thoughtful comments out there? I am sitting here waiting for 
>> parts....
>>
>>
>> mayf
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