[Land-speed] Buckeye Bullet

speedtimer at beyondbb.com speedtimer at beyondbb.com
Tue Sep 29 10:48:55 MDT 2009


Didn't you guys forget Rick Byrnes and the Ford. He went 200 with a hydrogen 
power vehicle.
GB
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "drmayf" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
To: "LSR" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:29 AM
Subject: [Land-speed] Buckeye Bullet


> Dale Pulju sent me a note about the Buckeye Bullet setting a record of 300 
> + mph with Hydrogen.  Now this brings an interesting question or two. But 
> first, I say well done to that effort!  Now the questions: they  had 
> previously set a record using batteries. Batteries are electric storage 
> devices. So the record was listed as an electrical record. Good enough I 
> say. But now another record is claimed as a hydrogen record. Yet the car's 
> drive system was electrical.  Hydrogen (actually hydrogen and oxygen mix) 
> was used to produce electricity which powered the car.  So was the 
> original record using batteries really a gasoline record because the 
> batteries that supplied the power were charged via some generator? Or Nuke 
> because the electrons came from that?  With the H2O2 and the fuel cells 
> generating electrons I believe that the record is really an electrical 
> one.  Think hard about this. Do the rule making authorities need new 
> definitions of what actually powers a vehicle?  Take  a hybrid vehicle. 
> Doesn't the gasoline motor provide most of the power? If so, why is it 
> called a hybrid?  If I could put a gasoline powered generator in a car and 
> use the gen power to run the electric motor that drives the wheels, would 
> that be electrical or fossil fuel powered?  It cannot run without gasoline 
> so is it defined as a petroleum powered car or electrical. Isn't that what 
> a hybrid is?  Me, I think that the drive mechanism has to be primarily 
> fueled by something directly and that should be the definition. for 
> instance the car that Jesse James used had a true hydrogen motor. The fuel 
> was directly powering the vehicle.  The Ford Fusion and the Buckeye Bullet 
> used electric drive to move the vehicle and I think that is electrical. 
> Not hydrogen.
>
>
> Any thoughtful comments out there? I am sitting here waiting for parts....
>
>
> mayf
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