[Healeys] Solder joints

[Michael Salter]

I have always used the method recommended by Chrysler in their Workshop
Manuals.
Never let me down.

On Mon., Oct. 2, 2023, 11:19 a.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I did literally thousands of inline and terminal connections while
> building and rewiring the main and sub panels of my boat and always used
> *proper* cutters, strippers and crimping tools with quality tinned
> terminal fittings--sometimes resin-filled and sometimes not depending upon
> location and service, etc.  If there was ever a failure it was only due to
> a bad crimp, etc.
>
> In addition to what Bob says re these fittings only being for inline butt
> joints there is always the risk of damaging adjacent wiring with careless
> or too much heat, etc.
> They look slick but I think I'd agree with Bob.
>
> Best--Michael
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 1:23 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I've never used these--in fact, this is the first I've heard of
>> them--but, of course, that never stopped me from having an opinion or two.
>> My 'hot take' (heh):
>>
>> 1) there may be solder formulations that a heat gun could melt, but
>> calling this 'solder' seems to be a mis-characterization: the 'fine print'
>> says it's 'hot melt adhesive.' I didn't see anything about its
>> conductivity, nor it's strength (though the shrink wrap part would be
>> reinforcing).
>>
>> 2) when I was maintaining my own aircraft, I subscribed to a magazine
>> called 'Light Plane Maintenance.' It didn't take any advertising, and never
>> shied away from 'calling it like it is.' They did exhaustive research and
>> experimentation on the benefit/risk of solder joints vs. crimp joints and
>> came to the conclusion that crimping was superior to soldering (and easier,
>> to boot). But, it has to be done properly; e.g.:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIfoSSmlQR8
>>
>> 3) I only see them as being used for splices; apparently, you still need
>> to employ crimping or soldering for terminals (loop, spade, etc.). I'd
>> prefer all my wiring to be consistent.
>>
>> 4) the advert claims they are 'waterproof;' that, I think, is a stretch.
>> Most similar ads only claim 'water resistant' (for liability, I suspect;
>> water will eventually get into almost everything).
>>
>> 5) for most solder joints you want to twist the bare ends together; that
>> doesn't seem possible with these.
>>
>> So, no dice for me.
>>
>> bs
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/1/2023 7:46 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>>
>> Ah, yes. Good point!
>>
>> 200PCs Solderstick Waterproof Solder Wire Connector Kit Original
>> Connector Tools | eBay <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404496927584>
>>
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>> *From:* Jim Ryan <ryan at jimryan.com> <ryan at jimryan.com>
>> *Sent:* 01 October 2023 14:01
>> *To:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
>> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> <healeys at autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Solder joints
>>
>>
>>
>> Simon,
>>
>>
>>
>> I didn't see a link or attachment.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, 3:39 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone used these? And, if so, are they any good?
>>
>> I saw them on some car show and was impressed. Seems like they’d make a
>> pretty decent joint if they’re as good as they’re cracked up to be. Not
>> very original in their appearance but sound enough??
>> Touch wood, I don’t have many (any?) connections to make in the 3000, but
>> for general use?
>> Simon
>>
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