[Healeys] Solder joints

[Michael Oritt]

I did literally thousands of inline and terminal connections while building
and rewiring the main and sub panels of my boat and always used
*proper* cutters,
strippers and crimping tools with quality tinned terminal
fittings--sometimes resin-filled and sometimes not depending upon location
and service, etc.  If there was ever a failure it was only due to a bad
crimp, etc.

In addition to what Bob says re these fittings only being for inline butt
joints there is always the risk of damaging adjacent wiring with careless
or too much heat, etc.
They look slick but I think I'd agree with Bob.

Best--Michael

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 1:23 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:

> I've never used these--in fact, this is the first I've heard of them--but,
> of course, that never stopped me from having an opinion or two. My 'hot
> take' (heh):
>
> 1) there may be solder formulations that a heat gun could melt, but
> calling this 'solder' seems to be a mis-characterization: the 'fine print'
> says it's 'hot melt adhesive.' I didn't see anything about its
> conductivity, nor it's strength (though the shrink wrap part would be
> reinforcing).
>
> 2) when I was maintaining my own aircraft, I subscribed to a magazine
> called 'Light Plane Maintenance.' It didn't take any advertising, and never
> shied away from 'calling it like it is.' They did exhaustive research and
> experimentation on the benefit/risk of solder joints vs. crimp joints and
> came to the conclusion that crimping was superior to soldering (and easier,
> to boot). But, it has to be done properly; e.g.:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIfoSSmlQR8
>
> 3) I only see them as being used for splices; apparently, you still need
> to employ crimping or soldering for terminals (loop, spade, etc.). I'd
> prefer all my wiring to be consistent.
>
> 4) the advert claims they are 'waterproof;' that, I think, is a stretch.
> Most similar ads only claim 'water resistant' (for liability, I suspect;
> water will eventually get into almost everything).
>
> 5) for most solder joints you want to twist the bare ends together; that
> doesn't seem possible with these.
>
> So, no dice for me.
>
> bs
>
>
>
> On 10/1/2023 7:46 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>
> Ah, yes. Good point!
>
> 200PCs Solderstick Waterproof Solder Wire Connector Kit Original Connector
> Tools | eBay <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404496927584>
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> *From:* Jim Ryan <ryan at jimryan.com> <ryan at jimryan.com>
> *Sent:* 01 October 2023 14:01
> *To:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Solder joints
>
>
>
> Simon,
>
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>
> I didn't see a link or attachment.
>
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> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, 3:39 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Has anyone used these? And, if so, are they any good?
>
> I saw them on some car show and was impressed. Seems like they’d make a
> pretty decent joint if they’re as good as they’re cracked up to be. Not
> very original in their appearance but sound enough??
> Touch wood, I don’t have many (any?) connections to make in the 3000, but
> for general use?
> Simon
>
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