[Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 16, Issue 278
george mcharris
gmcharris at hotmail.com
Sun Nov 12 17:44:44 MST 2023
Just purchased from Moss and it is made with a standard wire....It should be flexable enuf ? What you say ?
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Low tension wire (John Vrugtman)
2. Re: Low tension wire (Michael Salter)
3. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion (Michael Oritt)
4. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion (HealeyRick)
5. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
(simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
6. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion (john spaur)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 15:59:51 -0500
From: John Vrugtman <javrugtman at htcnet.org>
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low tension wire
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*Now that's perfect example of thinking outside the box; shoe laces for
ignition wire covers.*
On 11/11/2023 10:19 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote:
> Bob, yes they actually do have a "braided" cloth insulation sleeve
> over the braided copper wire originally.? I think the material is cotton.
> I would try using shoe laces. You may have to buy a few types to get
> what you want but I found a tubular type of lace which has an inner
> tube component on Amazon which is just about perfect for the job.
>
> M
>
> On Sat., Nov. 11, 2023, 9:48 a.m. Bob Spidell, <bspidell at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> I don't think I've seen one covered in cloth.
>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FBENECREAT-Braided-Flexible-Grounding-Reducing%2Fdp%2FB0BGX937NC%3Fth%3D1&data=05%7C01%7C%7C692dd86501e9430d22d308dbe3d5667b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638354277935599543%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=4CRiiLy5DQxlkTEwJ7XfbKUZc1dGPq4Enw4bdfnBCWo%3D&reserved=0<https://www.amazon.com/BENECREAT-Braided-Flexible-Grounding-Reducing/dp/B0BGX937NC?th=1>
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> On 11/11/2023 4:59 AM, S and T Miller wrote:
>> Does anyone know the specifications and/or source of the
>> distributor low tension cloth covered black wire lead? Interested
>> in the gauge and type of wire as original, because of the look
>> and its exceptional flexibility.
>>
>> I do realize that there are a few sources for the leads, but I'd
>> rather have a length to keep on hand to make my own.
>> TY, Shawn
>>
>> The Millers
>>
>> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is
>> a test drive."
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 19:47:44 -0500
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
To: "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low tension wire
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I must give credit where credit is due.
The shoe laces idea is one I got from Andy Thorp in New Zealand.
M
On Sat., Nov. 11, 2023, 5:22 p.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> *Now that's perfect example of thinking outside the box; shoe laces for
> ignition wire covers.*
>
> On 11/11/2023 10:19 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote:
>
> Bob, yes they actually do have a "braided" cloth insulation sleeve over
> the braided copper wire originally. I think the material is cotton.
> I would try using shoe laces. You may have to buy a few types to get what
> you want but I found a tubular type of lace which has an inner tube
> component on Amazon which is just about perfect for the job.
>
> M
>
> On Sat., Nov. 11, 2023, 9:48 a.m. Bob Spidell, <bspidell at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't think I've seen one covered in cloth.
>>
>>
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FBENECREAT-Braided-Flexible-Grounding-Reducing%2Fdp%2FB0BGX937NC%3Fth%3D1&data=05%7C01%7C%7C692dd86501e9430d22d308dbe3d5667b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638354277935599543%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=4CRiiLy5DQxlkTEwJ7XfbKUZc1dGPq4Enw4bdfnBCWo%3D&reserved=0<https://www.amazon.com/BENECREAT-Braided-Flexible-Grounding-Reducing/dp/B0BGX937NC?th=1>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FBENECREAT-Braided-Flexible-Grounding-Reducing%2Fdp%2FB0BGX937NC%3Fth%3D1&data=05%7C01%7C%7C692dd86501e9430d22d308dbe3d5667b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638354277935599543%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=4CRiiLy5DQxlkTEwJ7XfbKUZc1dGPq4Enw4bdfnBCWo%3D&reserved=0<https://www.amazon.com/BENECREAT-Braided-Flexible-Grounding-Reducing/dp/B0BGX937NC?th=1>
>>
>> On 11/11/2023 4:59 AM, S and T Miller wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know the specifications and/or source of the distributor low
>> tension cloth covered black wire lead? Interested in the gauge and type of
>> wire as original, because of the look and its exceptional flexibility.
>>
>> I do realize that there are a few sources for the leads, but I'd rather
>> have a length to keep on hand to make my own.
>> TY, Shawn
>>
>> The Millers
>>
>> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test
>> drive."
>>
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 20:52:04 -0500
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
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"short of putting lard in"
-------------------------------
The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars' rears
to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
> I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are mostly
> caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a
> process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the book'
> and it's a bit noisy (it's only bothersome with the hood up, which isn't
> often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which seemed to
> help a little but short of putting lard in I don't think there's a
> 'solution in a can.'
>
> My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustangs
> had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC, DWM
> sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.
>
>
> On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% Chrome
> Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive. Factory
> spec.
>
> Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!
>
> Best,
>
> Peter
>
>
> On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:
>
> After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion sets
> being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised that
> people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.66/1
> in my BN1.
> There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are meant
> to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with these?
>
> M
>
> On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set? I ask,
> because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to
> replace it.
>
> John
> Hightown, VA
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 08:33:20 -0500
From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
Cc: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>, healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
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I thought sawdust was the preferred additive.
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 10:43?PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
wrote:
> "short of putting lard in"
> -------------------------------
> The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars'
> rears to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are mostly
>> caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a
>> process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the book'
>> and it's a bit noisy (it's only bothersome with the hood up, which isn't
>> often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which seemed to
>> help a little but short of putting lard in I don't think there's a
>> 'solution in a can.'
>>
>> My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustangs
>> had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC, DWM
>> sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.
>>
>>
>> On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% Chrome
>> Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive. Factory
>> spec.
>>
>> Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:
>>
>> After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion sets
>> being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised that
>> people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.66/1
>> in my BN1.
>> There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are meant
>> to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with these?
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set? I ask,
>> because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to
>> replace it.
>>
>> John
>> Hightown, VA
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:45:35 -0000
From: <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
To: "'Michael Oritt'" <michael.oritt at gmail.com>, "'Bob Spidell'"
<bspidell at comcast.net>
Cc: <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
Message-ID: <002d01da156e$84ec8590$8ec590b0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
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Women?s stockings were reputedly another favourite.
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Oritt
Sent: 12 November 2023 01:52
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
"short of putting lard in"
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The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars' rears to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net> > wrote:
I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are mostly caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the book' and it's a bit noisy (it's only bothersome with the hood up, which isn't often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which seemed to help a little but short of putting lard in I don't think there's a 'solution in a can.'
My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustangs had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC, DWM sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.
On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:
Michael,
For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% Chrome Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive. Factory spec.
Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!
Best,
Peter
On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:
After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion sets being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised that people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.66/1 in my BN1.
There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are meant to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with these?
M
On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:
Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set? I ask,
because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to
replace it.
John
Hightown, VA
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:16:04 +0000
From: john spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
To: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>, Michael Oritt
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Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
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Many years ago I had a friend who said he used a mixture of banana peels and sawdust. I am not sure what the ratio was but you could Stat with a 50/50 mix. ???
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2023 5:33:20 AM
To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
I thought sawdust was the preferred additive.
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 10:43?PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com<mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com>> wrote:
"short of putting lard in"
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The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars' rears to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net<mailto:bspidell at comcast.net>> wrote:
I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are mostly caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the book' and it's a bit noisy (it's only bothersome with the hood up, which isn't often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which seemed to help a little but short of putting lard in I don't think there's a 'solution in a can.'
My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustangs had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC, DWM sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.
On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:
Michael,
For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% Chrome Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive. Factory spec.
Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!
Best,
Peter
On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:
After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion sets being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised that people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.66/1 in my BN1.
There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are meant to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with these?
M
On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set? I ask,
because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to
replace it.
John
Hightown, VA
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