[Healeys] Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap

Sun Jun 25 14:08:16 MDT 2023

43026 has some things that seem to deviate from normal, but since it was put together with “parts” in the Abingdon “Show Shop” I guess that could be expected.

The VIN plate is rectangular, rather than the later style “oval” plate; the valve cover is chromed, and has the AUSTIN and SET ROCKERS…” plates attached with rivets or screws, instead of the decals expected on engine /H17504.  The valve cover hold-down nuts also look to be different from standard.

Seems that 43026 is not a good example on which to base a decision on the proper oil filler cap.  I’ve seen a lot of BJ8s, but don’t think I’ve ever seen one with the non-rimmed filler cap.  I’ve owned my BJ8 36666 almost 40 years with its original engine and it has the rimmed cap.   I’m not saying there aren’t any of the non-rimmed style out there somewhere, though.

Steve Byers

BJ8 Registry

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Havelock, NC  USA

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of N.S. Bennett
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2023 10:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap

Attached is a photo (albeit very poor) from HBJ8/43026 showing the filler cap. I'll leave it to those with better eyes than mine but this appears to be the former (not the latter) shown in the original email.

Hopefully Steve Byers sees this thread and has better information than I. 

Happy Healeying!

Nate B.

'66 BJ8

Parker, CO

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   1. spigot bush (warthodson at aol.com)
   2. Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap (Michael Salter)
   3. Re: Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap (Richard Kahn)
   4. Re: Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap
      (Stephen Hutchings)
   5. Re: Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap (Hank Leach)
   6. Re: Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap (Bob Spidell)
   7. Re: Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap (kags at shaw.ca)
   8. Re: spigot bush (Kees Oudesluijs)
   9. Re: Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap (Warren Dietz)

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Subject: [Healeys] spigot bush

I recall that it is recommended to soak the spigot bush (bronze bearing in the crankshaft) in oil before installing. What is the correct way to do this & does the grade of the oil matter?

Gary Hodson

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Subject: [Healeys] Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap

I have been asked a question by a gentleman restoring a late BJ8 about oil filler caps.

The cap on his car is of this type and he is fairly sure that it is original.

image.png

However I am fairly sure that the only original caps that I have seen on 6 cylinder engines look like this.

image.png

with the distinct "rim" around the edge.

Would appreciate anyone with a known original late BJ8 letting me know which type of cap is fitted to their car.

Many thanks

Michael Salter

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap

Mine is like the green one and I have never seen the others one on any BJ8 in twenty two years of Healey ownership.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 24, 2023, at 3:34 PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:

I have been asked a question by a gentleman restoring a late BJ8 about oil filler caps.

The cap on his car is of this type and he is fairly sure that it is original.

<image.png>

However I am fairly sure that the only original caps that I have seen on 6 cylinder engines look like this.

<image.png>

with the distinct "rim" around the edge.

Would appreciate anyone with a known original late BJ8 letting me know which type of cap is fitted to their car.

Many thanks

Michael Salter

Concours Guidelines Editor.

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap

My cap is like the painted one with the rim.

Stephen, BJ8

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Mine is like the green one and I have never seen the others one on any BJ8 in twenty two years of Healey ownership.

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On Jun 24, 2023, at 3:34 PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:

I have been asked a question by a gentleman restoring a late BJ8 about oil filler caps.

The cap on his car is of this type and he is fairly sure that it is original.

<image.png>

However I am fairly sure that the only original caps that I have seen on 6 cylinder engines look like this.

<image.png>

with the distinct "rim" around the edge.

Would appreciate anyone with a known original late BJ8 letting me know which type of cap is fitted to their car.

Many thanks

Michael Salter

Concours Guidelines Editor.

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap

Michael my engine is original to the car purchased new 1966. Here is a photo. Hank

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Sent: Saturday June 24 2023 3:50:53PM
Subject: [Healeys] Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap

I have been asked a question by a gentleman restoring a late BJ8 about oil filler caps.

The cap on his car is of this type and he is fairly sure that it is original.

 image.png <http://index.php/inbox/attachment/filenameOriginal/image.png/filenamefs/INBOX61594d2b5ca33bd970f64a6301fa75ae2eb22> 

However I am fairly sure that the only original caps that I have seen on 6 cylinder engines look like this.

 image.png <http://index.php/inbox/attachment/filenameOriginal/image.png/filenamefs/INBOX61594f2c9dea0da34ccd23102a1ae355639df> 

with the distinct "rim" around the edge.

Would appreciate anyone with a known original late BJ8 letting me know which type of cap is fitted to their car.

Many thanks

Michael Salter

Concours Guidelines Editor.

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap

My '67 BJ8, 'despatched' in Nov. 1966 has the second (green) type. It had 64K miles when I bought it and, besides a couple paint jobs was all original as far as I could tell.

On 6/24/2023 2:43 PM, Michael Salter wrote:

I have been asked a question by a gentleman restoring a late BJ8 about oil filler caps.

The cap on his car is of this type and he is fairly sure that it is original.

image.png

However I am fairly sure that the only original caps that I have seen on 6 cylinder engines look like this.

image.png

with the distinct "rim" around the edge.

Would appreciate anyone with a known original late BJ8 letting me know which type of cap is fitted to their car.

Many thanks

Michael Salter

Concours Guidelines Editor.

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap

Michael:

Just went out to the garage to check, and lo and behold, I have what must be the later type – the unpainted cap in your message - on my BJ8 – car # 42845 (Nov 1967).  I’ve owned the car for 42 years now – it’s highly likely (but not impossible) – based on the car’s overall condition when acquired - that the both valve cover and cap are original to the car.

Interesting!

Earl Kagna

Victoria, BC

BT7, BJ8

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2023 2:44 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap

I have been asked a question by a gentleman restoring a late BJ8 about oil filler caps.

The cap on his car is of this type and he is fairly sure that it is original.

However I am fairly sure that the only original caps that I have seen on 6 cylinder engines look like this.

with the distinct "rim" around the edge.

Would appreciate anyone with a known original late BJ8 letting me know which type of cap is fitted to their car.

Many thanks

Michael Salter

Concours Guidelines Editor.

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] spigot bush

Sintered phosphor bronze is porous and should be soaked in oil before use. Usually a lightweight oil is used. Place the spigot bearing in a small container with oil making sure the spigot is fully covered, heat the container "au bain marie" in e.g. a large sauce pan for obvious safety reasons to near boiling point of the water and keep it there for a while so most air can escape (air will expend during heating up) from the porous material. Then let it all cool down to ambient temperature. The oil will then have penetrated in the spigot bearing replacing the air in de phosphor bronze.
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Op 24-6-2023 om 23:00 schreef warthodson--- via Healeys:

I recall that it is recommended to soak the spigot bush (bronze bearing in the crankshaft) in oil before installing. What is the correct way to do this & does the grade of the oil matter?

Gary Hodson

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap

Michael,

The green one with rim. Photo is from my car.

WD 

67 BJ8 

Original owner car #41574

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From: Michael Salter <mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com> 
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2023 6:32 PM
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Subject: [Healeys] Concours Question 6 cylinder Oil filler cap

I have been asked a question by a gentleman restoring a late BJ8 about oil filler caps.

The cap on his car is of this type and he is fairly sure that it is original.

However I am fairly sure that the only original caps that I have seen on 6 cylinder engines look like this.

with the distinct "rim" around the edge.

Would appreciate anyone with a known original late BJ8 letting me know which type of cap is fitted to their car.

Many thanks

Michael Salter

Concours Guidelines Editor.

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