[Healeys] New up-rated 100/4 water pumps

[Don Hardie]

I modified mine many moons ago.
Attached are the instructions.

Don Hardie

On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 2:00 AM Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
wrote:

> After a couple of unsuccessful attempts I  managed to figure out a way to
> modify the internals of a 100 water pump to use the seal from an early 6
> cylinder type. I've had it on my car for 5000 miles now without problems.
>
> M
>
> On Sun., Jan. 8, 2023, 8:43 a.m. jmsdarch--- via Healeys, <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> There is a carbon water seal that needs to be seated; hence the need to
>> run it dry for a bit.
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Jean
>> Caron
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 7, 2023 10:48 PM
>> *To:* Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>; healeys at autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] New up-rated 100/4 water pumps
>>
>>
>>
>> From what I have been told, the County pump sold by Moss should be run
>> dry for about 30 seconds not sure why  when I was told that, I had never of
>> such thing.
>>
>> Having said that, I do not purchase new pumps, I have originals rebuilt.
>> The place I use, is not inexpensive, but their work is fantastic, that is
>> enough for me.
>>
>> The place is:
>>
>> John Stuart Power Brake, 349 Millen Rd. N., Stoney Creek  Ontario L8E 2H3.
>>
>> PH: 905-662-7274 or 800-309-1995
>>
>>
>>
>> Jean
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada’s largest network.
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>>
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Bob
>> Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 7, 2023 5:40:27 PM
>> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] New up-rated 100/4 water pumps
>>
>>
>>
>> Just went through this ordeal. As you know, there isn't much choice for
>> 100 pumps from the 'usual suspects;' it's either County or 'uprated.'
>> 'Uprated' is a brand called 'Bastuck;' I believe they're a German
>> company. They do appear to have a somewhat better-designed impeller and
>> compared to County they turn smoother (you probably know I'm not a big
>> fan of County). Though otherwise a decent pump, the Bastucks have two
>> issues:
>>
>> 1) The thread for the heater return line--it's probably metric--will not
>> fit the 100s nifty brass valve; you're stuck using the barbed nipple
>> that comes with the pump. Disappointing since I've tried to keep my 100M
>> original as much as possible and I have a lovely, original brass valve I
>> can't use.
>>
>> 2) The pump body has a threaded plug; for god-knows-what reason the
>> threads are extremely loose and all but impossible to seal up. I tried
>> the usual teflon tape, red threadlocker, 'normal' pipe sealant and JB
>> Weld and none would seal even without being under pressure (the threads
>> are really rough). I ended up brazing the plug on one pump, but feared I
>> might have damaged the seal due to the heat required (oxy/acetylene) to
>> heat the cast iron. In desperation, I bought a County pump but the
>> bearings felt a bit rough. I got a tip from another Lister and sprung
>> for a new Bastuck pump; the lister pointed me to this (apparently) new
>> product from Permatex (NFI):
>>
>>
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>> This stuff worked a treat, but be sure to follow the instructions re:
>> cleaning and let this stuff cure for 72 hrs.
>>
>> I've seen 'OEM/rebuilt' on eBay but can't vouch for them (they
>> apparently have an older type seal). Tom Monaco knows someone he trusts
>> who rebuilds them, but the guy's backlogged and Tom hasn't remembered to
>> let me know when he gets some done (I've already pestered him a couple
>> times). Any rebuilt OEM is liable to run $400 or more. Oh, and last I
>> checked the Bastuck were sold out; BNP had some but apparently they took
>> them off the shelf (possibly because of the issue with the sloppy plug).
>>
>> Wanna buy my new, in-the-box County pump? FWIW, the County pump I
>> received has a similar barbed nipple for the return line and it appears
>> to be epoxied in.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> On 1/7/2023 1:13 PM, Richard Mayor wrote:
>> > Anyone have any experience with the "uprated" BN1-BN2 water pumps
>> > being sold by Moss? I can see in the pictures that there is a brand
>> > name......and it's not County.
>> >
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