<div dir="ltr"><div>I modified mine many moons ago.</div><div>Attached are the instructions.</div><div><br></div><div>Don Hardie<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 2:00 AM Michael Salter <<a href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">After a couple of unsuccessful attempts I  managed to figure out a way to modify the internals of a 100 water pump to use the seal from an early 6 cylinder type. I've had it on my car for 5000 miles now without problems.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">M</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun., Jan. 8, 2023, 8:43 a.m. jmsdarch--- via Healeys, <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal">There is a carbon water seal that needs to be seated; hence the need to run it dry for a bit.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">John<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jean Caron<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 7, 2023 10:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bob Spidell <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>>; <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] New up-rated 100/4 water pumps<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">From what I have been told, the County pump sold by Moss should be run dry for about 30 seconds not sure why  when I was told that, I had never of such thing.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Having said that, I do not purchase new pumps, I have originals rebuilt. The place I use, is not inexpensive, but their work is fantastic, that is enough for me.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The place is:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">John Stuart Power Brake, 349 Millen Rd. N., Stoney Creek  Ontario L8E 2H3.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">PH: 905-662-7274 or 800-309-1995<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33)">Jean<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div id="m_5592145616426479744m_-2025439909374730444ms-outlook-mobile-signature"><p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada’s largest network.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><hr width="98%" size="2" align="center"></div><div id="m_5592145616426479744m_-2025439909374730444divRplyFwdMsg"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Bob Spidell <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 7, 2023 5:40:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a> <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] New up-rated 100/4 water pumps</span> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Just went through this ordeal. As you know, there isn't much choice for <br>100 pumps from the 'usual suspects;' it's either County or 'uprated.' <br>'Uprated' is a brand called 'Bastuck;' I believe they're a German <br>company. They do appear to have a somewhat better-designed impeller and <br>compared to County they turn smoother (you probably know I'm not a big <br>fan of County). Though otherwise a decent pump, the Bastucks have two <br>issues:<br><br>1) The thread for the heater return line--it's probably metric--will not <br>fit the 100s nifty brass valve; you're stuck using the barbed nipple <br>that comes with the pump. Disappointing since I've tried to keep my 100M <br>original as much as possible and I have a lovely, original brass valve I <br>can't use.<br><br>2) The pump body has a threaded plug; for god-knows-what reason the <br>threads are extremely loose and all but impossible to seal up. I tried <br>the usual teflon tape, red threadlocker, 'normal' pipe sealant and JB <br>Weld and none would seal even without being under pressure (the threads <br>are really rough). I ended up brazing the plug on one pump, but feared I <br>might have damaged the seal due to the heat required (oxy/acetylene) to <br>heat the cast iron. In desperation, I bought a County pump but the <br>bearings felt a bit rough. I got a tip from another Lister and sprung <br>for a new Bastuck pump; the lister pointed me to this (apparently) new <br>product from Permatex (NFI):<br><br><a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.acehardware.com%2Fdepartments%2Fautomotive-rv-and-marine%2Fauto-tools-and-maintenance%2Fautomotive-adhesives%2F8008863%3Fstore%3D18108%26gclid%3DCj0KCQiAzeSdBhC4ARIsACj36uFxSKbyc_YqZGVj2GT45zIVvOr1cj-EUgn2PEmMOG3lBFpIIcC08bMaAv21EALw_wcB%26gclsrc%3Daw.ds&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cc93c8db6f5a94b923c0308daf10d6618%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638087337111767864%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=2GrFpspdVfjfsAdUFRZOkTa0DERqNuvjSDFgPMfdkI4%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.acehardware.com%2Fdepartments%2Fautomotive-rv-and-marine%2Fauto-tools-and-maintenance%2Fautomotive-adhesives%2F8008863%3Fstore%3D18108%26gclid%3DCj0KCQiAzeSdBhC4ARIsACj36uFxSKbyc_YqZGVj2GT45zIVvOr1cj-EUgn2PEmMOG3lBFpIIcC08bMaAv21EALw_wcB%26gclsrc%3Daw.ds&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cc93c8db6f5a94b923c0308daf10d6618%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638087337111767864%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=2GrFpspdVfjfsAdUFRZOkTa0DERqNuvjSDFgPMfdkI4%3D&reserved=0</a><br><br>This stuff worked a treat, but be sure to follow the instructions re: <br>cleaning and let this stuff cure for 72 hrs.<br><br>I've seen 'OEM/rebuilt' on eBay but can't vouch for them (they <br>apparently have an older type seal). Tom Monaco knows someone he trusts <br>who rebuilds them, but the guy's backlogged and Tom hasn't remembered to <br>let me know when he gets some done (I've already pestered him a couple <br>times). Any rebuilt OEM is liable to run $400 or more. Oh, and last I <br>checked the Bastuck were sold out; BNP had some but apparently they took <br>them off the shelf (possibly because of the issue with the sloppy plug).<br><br>Wanna buy my new, in-the-box County pump? FWIW, the County pump I <br>received has a similar barbed nipple for the return line and it appears <br>to be epoxied in.<br><br>Bob<br><br>On 1/7/2023 1:13 PM, Richard Mayor wrote:<br>> Anyone have any experience with the "uprated" BN1-BN2 water pumps <br>> being sold by Moss? I can see in the pictures that there is a brand <br>> name......and it's not County.<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Support Team.Net <a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fdonate.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cc93c8db6f5a94b923c0308daf10d6618%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638087337111767864%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=g8OguBg3kyO74aCy1HcIOefy3liwd55EhIP%2B1cIxSac%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fdonate.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cc93c8db6f5a94b923c0308daf10d6618%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638087337111767864%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=g8OguBg3kyO74aCy1HcIOefy3liwd55EhIP%2B1cIxSac%3D&reserved=0</a><br>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75<br>><br>> Archive: <a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fpipermail%2Fhealeys&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cc93c8db6f5a94b923c0308daf10d6618%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638087337111767864%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=WXuuQsflQ%2FiKVAWyGp%2BlgynfkYQghCdm2PhjQ224voc%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fpipermail%2Fhealeys&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cc93c8db6f5a94b923c0308daf10d6618%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638087337111767864%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=WXuuQsflQ%2FiKVAWyGp%2BlgynfkYQghCdm2PhjQ224voc%3D&reserved=0</a> <a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Farc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