[Healeys] Barn Find 100-4
N.S. Bennett
nstbennett at gmail.com
Sun Sep 11 13:07:25 MDT 2022
Of particular note in auction files on the Polk Auction website is that UJB
144 appears to be included in the upcoming auction. The VIN provided
appears to match that of the "factory spare" Sebring car. The history is
interesting and probably best told by someone other than me.
Nate B.
'66 BJ8
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> 4. Re: Barn find 100-4 (Tom)
> 5. Re: Main beam warning light (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
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> To: <kags at shaw.ca>
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> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 19:01:53 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Main beam warning light
>
> Well, thank you all for your replies.
>
> I don’t normally put much stock in the Clausager book, except for colour
> pictures. However, I did find this which does help:-“Blah blah…At the
> bottom of the speedometer was a high beam warning lamp, originally red but
> changed to blue on some export cars from chassis 14171 on the 3000 MarkII”.
>
> Now, bearing in mind that the UK calibration people seem to want to take
> months to do a speedo, I bought a decent-looking but non-functional unit
> from Michael. Hence the speedo came from over the pond or maybe somewhere
> even more exotic….Which may relate to the “some exports” bit??
>
> One last question, actually two:-
>
> 1. How easy is to get the little lamp thing out of the dial so that I
> can swap my red for blue?
> 2. With regard to my tacho, the red light has always been practically
> invisible. I’m pretty sure that, back in the dim distant past (could be 20+
> years), I put a piece of red plastic into an otherwise empty hole. (100%
> intact except for the red bit). The guy at Speedograph-Richfield said that
> the red was just something cut from a piece of red acetate. Is that so?
> Seems hard to imagine how…..
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> *From:* kags at shaw.ca <kags at shaw.ca>
> *Sent:* 10 September 2022 16:15
> *To:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
> *Cc:* Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Main beam warning light
>
>
>
> Hi Simon:
>
>
>
> My BT7 tri-carb, which is very close to yours in serial number from
> previous conversations, has a blue high beam warning light (red ignition
> warning light). I doubt that the UK / European cars were different – no
> indication of different speedo / tach part numbers in the original parts
> books, but perhaps another UK lister could chime in here and verify. I
> suspect that it’s a typo in the Anderson Moment book. The referral to
> ‘ratio’ is the number that insures that the speedo head is is properly
> matched to the different rear axle ratios that were used during the 6 cyl
> production - up to the BJ8, which went to black instrument faces, and an
> electronic tach, as Bob indicates.
>
>
>
> Earl Kagna
>
> Victoria, BC
>
> BT7, BJ8
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.teamnet
> <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>> *On Behalf Of *Simon Lachlan via Healeys
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 10, 2022 1:41 AM
> *To:* 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Main beam warning light
>
>
>
> We’re looking at a MkII BT7 here……….
>
> So, my speedo has just come back from calibration and, comparing it to the
> one still in the car I see that the former has a RED “Main beam warning
> light” whereas the latter, still in the car, has a BLUE one.
>
> The bible, Anderson & Moment, is confused and confusing on the topic. Page
> 104:- “……next was the speedometer, with a number on its face indicating its
> ratio, and which included a mileage meter, resettable odometer, and the RED
> “ignition” (discharging) warning light……….On the right was the tachometer
> with a number on the face indicating the ratio, and incorporating the RED
> high-beam warning light.”
>
> Now, unless that all refers to LHD cars, that’s just a muddle. Doubtless
> subject to subsequent corrections.
>
> However, it leaves me confused as to which colour is correct.
>
> So………………?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
>
>
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> To: "'simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com'" <
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> Cc: "'kags at shaw.ca'" <kags at shaw.ca>, "'Healey List'" <
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> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 23:34:40 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Main beam warning light
> Simon-if you have good eye sight and a steady hand, CAREFULLY, slightly
> open the tabs on the rear of the chrome ring-just a slight bit-if you move
> them too much they will break off. Now rotate the ring to the open slots.
> Don't let the glass fall out. Carefully lift from the seal. Remove and
> clean glass inside-don't bung the needle, but the little circle you can
> probably push out from the rear lamp opening-yes it is just s small piece
> of acetate or Mylar. Replace the circle with the blue one-maybe a very
> small drop of airplane glue on edge if it tends to fall out-if tight good-
> if loose it will be laying in the bottom of the gauge after a few miles.
>
> Now rotate the ring back into place and just push the tabs down a small
> bit, softly-I use a wood coffee stick-again so you don't break them
> off-they are brittle from chroming. Clean the outside of the glass and
> replace the rubber "O" ring which is actually a square rubber to be
> correct. Best of luck.
>
> For the ignition lamp, make sure you have the correct bulb-it is not the
> same as the panel bulb-its brighter. Needs a good ground as well. Hank
>
> -----------------------------------------
> From: "Simon Lachlan via Healeys"
> To: kags at shaw.ca
> Cc: "Healey List"
> Sent: Saturday September 10 2022 12:35:54PM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Main beam warning light
>
> Well, thank you all for your replies.
>
> I don’t normally put much stock in the Clausager book, except for colour
> pictures. However, I did find this which does help:-“Blah blah…At the
> bottom of the speedometer was a high beam warning lamp, originally red but
> changed to blue on some export cars from chassis 14171 on the 3000 MarkII”.
>
> Now, bearing in mind that the UK calibration people seem to want to take
> months to do a speedo, I bought a decent-looking but non-functional unit
> from Michael. Hence the speedo came from over the pond or maybe somewhere
> even more exotic….Which may relate to the “some exports” bit??
>
> One last question, actually two:-
>
> 1. How easy is to get the little lamp thing out of the dial so that I
> can swap my red for blue?
> 2. With regard to my tacho, the red light has always been practically
> invisible. I’m pretty sure that, back in the dim distant past (could be 20+
> years), I put a piece of red plastic into an otherwise empty hole. (100%
> intact except for the red bit). The guy at Speedograph-Richfield said that
> the red was just something cut from a piece of red acetate. Is that so?
> Seems hard to imagine how…..
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> *From:* kags at shaw.ca <kags at shaw.ca>
> *Sent:* 10 September 2022 16:15
> *To:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
> *Cc:* Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Main beam warning light
>
>
>
> Hi Simon:
>
>
>
> My BT7 tri-carb, which is very close to yours in serial number from
> previous conversations, has a blue high beam warning light (red ignition
> warning light). I doubt that the UK / European cars were different – no
> indication of different speedo / tach part numbers in the original parts
> books, but perhaps another UK lister could chime in here and verify. I
> suspect that it’s a typo in the Anderson Moment book. The referral to
> ‘ratio’ is the number that insures that the speedo head is is properly
> matched to the different rear axle ratios that were used during the 6 cyl
> production - up to the BJ8, which went to black instrument faces, and an
> electronic tach, as Bob indicates.
>
>
>
> Earl Kagna
>
> Victoria, BC
>
> BT7, BJ8
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.teamnet> *On Behalf Of* Simon
> Lachlan via Healeys
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 10, 2022 1:41 AM
> *To:* 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Main beam warning light
>
>
>
> We’re looking at a MkII BT7 here……….
>
> So, my speedo has just come back from calibration and, comparing it to the
> one still in the car I see that the former has a RED “Main beam warning
> light” whereas the latter, still in the car, has a BLUE one.
>
> The bible, Anderson & Moment, is confused and confusing on the topic. Page
> 104:- “……next was the speedometer, with a number on its face indicating its
> ratio, and which included a mileage meter, resettable odometer, and the RED
> “ignition” (discharging) warning light……….On the right was the tachometer
> with a number on the face indicating the ratio, and incorporating the RED
> high-beam warning light.”
>
> Now, unless that all refers to LHD cars, that’s just a muddle. Doubtless
> subject to subsequent corrections.
>
> However, it leaves me confused as to which colour is correct.
>
> So………………?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
>
>
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> From: gradea1 at charter.net
> To: "'healeys at autox.team.net'" <healeys at autox.team.net>, "'
> simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com'" <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 00:04:03 +0000
> Subject: [Healeys] FW: Re: Main beam warning light
> Opps! check that-panel and ignition warning bulbs are the same item- 2.2W
> #BFS987 on all cars from 100 thru 3000. Also no ground on the ignition
> warning only the headlight high beam. Wire from lamp comes from the
> voltage regulator terminal D or W and the white wire goes to your ignition
> switch center terminal (on). Good contact is essential. Regards, Hank
>
> -----------------------------------------
> From: gradea1 at charter.net
> To: "simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com"
> Cc: "kags at shaw.ca", "Healey List"
> Sent: Saturday September 10 2022 4:34:40PM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Main beam warning light
>
> Simon-if you have good eye sight and a steady hand, CAREFULLY, slightly
> open the tabs on the rear of the chrome ring-just a slight bit-if you move
> them too much they will break off. Now rotate the ring to the open slots.
> Don't let the glass fall out. Carefully lift from the seal. Remove and
> clean glass inside-don't bung the needle, but the little circle you can
> probably push out from the rear lamp opening-yes it is just s small piece
> of acetate or Mylar. Replace the circle with the blue one-maybe a very
> small drop of airplane glue on edge if it tends to fall out-if tight good-
> if loose it will be laying in the bottom of the gauge after a few miles.
>
> Now rotate the ring back into place and just push the tabs down a small
> bit, softly-I use a wood coffee stick-again so you don't break them
> off-they are brittle from chroming. Clean the outside of the glass and
> replace the rubber "O" ring which is actually a square rubber to be
> correct. Best of luck.
>
> For the ignition lamp, make sure you have the correct bulb-it is not the
> same as the panel bulb-its brighter. Needs a good ground as well. Hank
>
> -----------------------------------------
> From: "Simon Lachlan via Healeys"
> To: kags at shaw.ca
> Cc: "Healey List"
> Sent: Saturday September 10 2022 12:35:54PM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Main beam warning light
>
> Well, thank you all for your replies.
>
> I don’t normally put much stock in the Clausager book, except for colour
> pictures. However, I did find this which does help:-“Blah blah…At the
> bottom of the speedometer was a high beam warning lamp, originally red but
> changed to blue on some export cars from chassis 14171 on the 3000 MarkII”.
>
> Now, bearing in mind that the UK calibration people seem to want to take
> months to do a speedo, I bought a decent-looking but non-functional unit
> from Michael. Hence the speedo came from over the pond or maybe somewhere
> even more exotic….Which may relate to the “some exports” bit??
>
> One last question, actually two:-
>
> 1. How easy is to get the little lamp thing out of the dial so that I
> can swap my red for blue?
> 2. With regard to my tacho, the red light has always been practically
> invisible. I’m pretty sure that, back in the dim distant past (could be 20+
> years), I put a piece of red plastic into an otherwise empty hole. (100%
> intact except for the red bit). The guy at Speedograph-Richfield said that
> the red was just something cut from a piece of red acetate. Is that so?
> Seems hard to imagine how…..
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> *From:* kags at shaw.ca <kags at shaw.ca>
> *Sent:* 10 September 2022 16:15
> *To:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
> *Cc:* Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Main beam warning light
>
>
>
> Hi Simon:
>
>
>
> My BT7 tri-carb, which is very close to yours in serial number from
> previous conversations, has a blue high beam warning light (red ignition
> warning light). I doubt that the UK / European cars were different – no
> indication of different speedo / tach part numbers in the original parts
> books, but perhaps another UK lister could chime in here and verify. I
> suspect that it’s a typo in the Anderson Moment book. The referral to
> ‘ratio’ is the number that insures that the speedo head is is properly
> matched to the different rear axle ratios that were used during the 6 cyl
> production - up to the BJ8, which went to black instrument faces, and an
> electronic tach, as Bob indicates.
>
>
>
> Earl Kagna
>
> Victoria, BC
>
> BT7, BJ8
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.teamnet> *On Behalf Of* Simon
> Lachlan via Healeys
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 10, 2022 1:41 AM
> *To:* 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Main beam warning light
>
>
>
> We’re looking at a MkII BT7 here……….
>
> So, my speedo has just come back from calibration and, comparing it to the
> one still in the car I see that the former has a RED “Main beam warning
> light” whereas the latter, still in the car, has a BLUE one.
>
> The bible, Anderson & Moment, is confused and confusing on the topic. Page
> 104:- “……next was the speedometer, with a number on its face indicating its
> ratio, and which included a mileage meter, resettable odometer, and the RED
> “ignition” (discharging) warning light……….On the right was the tachometer
> with a number on the face indicating the ratio, and incorporating the RED
> high-beam warning light.”
>
> Now, unless that all refers to LHD cars, that’s just a muddle. Doubtless
> subject to subsequent corrections.
>
> However, it leaves me confused as to which colour is correct.
>
> So………………?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Tom <ah3000me at gmail.com>
> To: Allan Peters <allan-peters at sky.com>
> Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Bcc:
> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 08:50:27 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Barn find 100-4
> The URL is polkauction.com. No "S" in auction unless you want to go
> somewhere you really don't want to go.
>
> - Tom
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 2:09 PM Allan Peters via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> PolkAuctions.com of Lynchburg, Virginia are holding a massive Sale of
>> a MARK SMITH Collection.on October 21st.
>>
>> I spotted a real Jem of a 100 that appears in a Photo !, but
>> unfortunately is not in the list of Lots for Sale
>> Probably just as well as the Dollar is really Strong.
>> Car looks really interesting with a U/L Hardtop, side exit exhaust
>> and bn2 front wings
>> See Photo
>>
>> Had some luck with my own BN1 !! Spotted a Real 100M Distributor on
>> Ebay and is now Fitted. It has Certainly Livened things up, Will be
>> roadtesting it shortly to test the Overdrive
>>
>>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
> To:
> Cc: "'Healeys'" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Bcc:
> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 16:55:42 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Main beam warning light
>
> OK, last one on this. God willing.
>
> I have a tacho with a bad red lens (too thick), a speedo with wrong colour
> (red, not blue) and a (redundant/inaccurate) speedo with the correct colour
> (blue).
>
> Question:-
>
> If the little tubes that protrude through the instruments’ face and which
> contain the coloured acetate could be pushed out, then I could swap things
> around and get a blue where I want it and a good red where I want it.
>
> Is that possible? ie will the tubes push out??
>
> Plainly, I’m reluctant to start tapping on the back of these things if
> they’re well cemented to the back of the dial……..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
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