[Healeys] Trafficator reinstallation issues

Bob Spidell bspidell at comcast.net
Mon Sep 7 21:57:29 MDT 2020


Why wouldn't you use a split olive? They seem to seal OK, and most leaks 
come from the front or top cover, or the rocker shaft seal.

On 9/7/2020 8:37 PM, Michael Oritt via Healeys wrote:
> Bill--
>
> It is identical to the one that was on the car prior to my beginning 
> the project.  it cam off with some difficulty.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 11:03 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink at msn.com 
> <mailto:ynotink at msn.com>> wrote:
>
>     Careful of the solid “olive”. Sounds like a tubing ferrule to me.
>     If you put enough force on it to set it you might not be able to
>     remove it.
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net
>     <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>> on behalf of Michael
>     Oritt via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net
>     <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
>     *Sent:* Monday, September 7, 2020 5:58 PM
>     *To:* John Harper <ah100register at gmail.com
>     <mailto:ah100register at gmail.com>>
>     *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
>     <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Trafficator reinstallation issues
>
>       * I got everything together this morning.
>      *
>
>       * I was under the mistaken impression that the three flathead
>         screws shown in the earlier photo should stay in place and
>         that three additional screws should pass through the plate on
>         the end of the stator tube and somehow thread into the holes
>         in the copper ring.  (Those holes and the three smaller holes
>         on the plate were apparently designed to slip over locator
>         pins which were present on some units, though not mine.).  In
>         any case after a lot of good and patient advice from folks
>         over on this list and the AH Experience site I finally saw the
>         error of my ways, removed the three screws and passed them
>         through the countersunk holes on the plate and into the
>         trafficator.
>      *
>
>       * Despite varying opinions as to whether or not the olive should
>         be split to allow for installation I was able to get the solid
>         one sent to me by David Nock started onto the stator tube and
>         by using the nut I drove it home.  I'll finish lubing and
>         wiring tomorrow hopefully.
>      *
>
>       * This is one of those jobs that we will probably do only once
>         if at all during our ownership but in case there is a "next
>         time" for me I am now ready and what took me hours will
>         probably take minutes.
>      *
>
>       * Thanks all for your patience--Michael Oritt
>
>
>     On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 9:45 AM John Harper via Healeys
>     <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>         Curt
>
>         So that everybody is aware Lucas used as a general view odd
>         sizes of BA as well as 5BA as you correctly said.
>
>         Best regards
>
>         On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 14:39, Curtis Arndt via Healeys
>         <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>             Gentlemen,
>
>             First, I fat fingered my response, the screws are no. 5
>             BA.  See attached.
>
>             Second, there should be absolutely no need for alignment
>             pins.
>
>             Just use the correct three countersunk holes in the stator
>             tube, get one started, center the switch on the plate, and
>             the rest will follow.
>
>             -Curt
>
>             On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 5:58 AM <warthodson at aol.com
>             <mailto:warthodson at aol.com>> wrote:
>
>                 I have re-read your description of the problem & if I
>                 understand your issue I have 2 suggestions.
>                 Would it be possible to use some temporary, low tack
>                 glue (such as common glue stick) to adhere the thin
>                 copper or brass piece in place while you are
>                 assembling the assembly?
>                 Would it also help to only use 1 #4BA counter sunk
>                 screw & 2 longer, thinner, non-threaded, temporary
>                 "pins" to assist in alignment? The "pins" would be
>                 removed after you get one #4BA screw started enough
>                 that it would stay in place.
>                 Gary Hodson
>
>
>
>
>                             On 9/6/20 3:35 PM, Michael Oritt via
>                             Healeys wrote:
>                             >
>                             >     I sent my trafficator/horn assembly
>                             off to Curt Arndt for
>                             >     refurbishing and got it back in
>                             great condition. However I am
>                             >     having difficulty in reinstalling it:
>                             >
>                             >     1. I have fed the wires down the
>                             stator tube and am ready to
>                             >     attach the trafficator assembly
>                             which is done via three #4BA flat
>                             >     head machine screws that go through
>                             the countersunk holes in the
>                             >     stator tube end plate and pick up
>                             the thin copper or brass piece
>                             >     which resembles a spring washer.
>                             Because of the piece's thinness
>                             >     there is really only one thread of
>                             engagement and whenever I
>                             >     attempt to push the head/tube home
>                             into its final position I
>                             >     invariably dislodge one of the
>                             screws from the head. Am I doing
>                             >     something wrong here or am I simply
>                             being ham-handed?
>                             >
>                             >     2. Is there a trick to getting the
>                             olive over the end of the
>                             >     stator tube as I cannot get it
>                             started and before I start exerting
>                             >     force I thought I would enquire
>                             whether it needs to be heated,
>                             >     etc. Getting the old one off was not
>                             easy and i would up having to
>                             >     cut it with a dremel tool. It is
>                             possible that I have slightly
>                             >     buggered the end of the stator tube
>                             and wonder if perhaps I need
>                             >     to dress the end, chamfering it a bit?
>                             >
>                             >     Any help will be
>                             appreciated--weather is beginning to cool
>                             off and
>                             >     I would like to get the car back on
>                             the road.
>                             >
>                             >
>                             >     Best--Michael Oritt, 100 Le Mans
>                             >
>                             >
>

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