[Healeys] interesting BN1 "survivor"

HealeyRick healeyrik at gmail.com
Mon Jul 27 19:45:26 MDT 2020


Not exactly channeling Ed (who could be quite a nice guy under his
curmudgeon exterior) but I remember participating in his survey.  If you
search "hyphen" in the list archives at the bottom of the messages, there
are a number of postings about the hyphen controversy. There were BJ7s that
had the hyphen, some did not.  I had to go out to the garage and check and
my BJ7 with its original badge does have the hyphen.  This advertisement
appears to be a BJ7 and note the hyphen is gone from "Austin Healey"
Perhaps the internal BMC decision to drop the hyphen was made at the
beginning of BJ7 production, but they just used up all the old MK II badges
with the hyphen until they ordered up new ones without the hyphen.  Why the
decision was made, who knows?
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Healthy Healeying,
Rick Neville

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 8:52 PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have a difficult time taking *"Huh?"* for an answer and did a google
> search of "Austin-Healey hyphenated".I got one hit on AHX--a post from the
> late Ed Kaler:
>
> "BEING a BJ-7 Owner (and curious), I have put together a "survey" for all
> !!
>
> Results will come to me and I will do a data base of the results and
> publish
> for all. I just tested it and it works great and reports as follows:
> <quote>
> Your BlueMail form has been completed, following are the results:
> Field Value
> Name Ed Kaler
> Model BJ-7
> Year 1963
> Chassis 22707
> State IL
> Country USA
> mailfrom (email redacted)
> subject Hyphen Survey
> </quote>
>
> As per Gary's suggestion I will add fields for:
> Body Number:
> Build Date:
>
> What say you gents?? Gimme an hour or so before going to:
>
> justbrits.com/survey/hyphen.html
>
> Unless someone is into channeling Ed it appears that whatever he learned
> (if anything) went to the grave with him....
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 8:40 PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Many stories and takes on exactly when it changed, but how is it possible
>> that no one knows why?
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 6:36 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn <
>> p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> According to Clausager, the ‘Austin of England’ badge was changed to the
>>> ‘Austin-Healey’ badge in August 1954, but he does not supply a chassis or
>>> body number. The reflector pods were introduced at the same time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> According to Quinn (for what’s that worth) the Austin-Healey badging was
>>> changed to ‘Austin Healey’ during the change from the BT7 Mk2 Roadster to
>>> the BJ7. I think I have looked at a zillion cars (impossible of course) and
>>> noted the hyphen with the roadsters and not with the convertibles.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hoo Roo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Patrick Quinn
>>>
>>> Blue Mountains, Australia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Michael
>>> Oritt
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 28 July 2020 6:41 AM
>>> *To:* Curtis Arndt
>>> *Cc:* Austin Healey
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] interesting BN1 "survivor"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Curt--
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was referring to the dropping of the hyphen when the badging, and
>>> name, changed from "Austin-Healey" to "Austin Healey".  I believe this was
>>> some time around the release of BN/BT 7's but may be wrong on that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In any case changing a car's badging/logo, much less the brand's formal
>>> name is, to my mind, much too big a deal to lay at the feet of a supplier's
>>> mistake.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 4:23 PM Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Healey became Austin Healey at the 1952 Earls court Motor show after DMH
>>> and Leonard Lord made a deal, and Roger Menadue made a new bonnet badge
>>> overnight.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> One can assume that since Austin already had a ready supply of Austin of
>>> England badges, that these were just put on the boot lid since after all,
>>> I'm certain Leonard Lord wanted everyone to know that while this "new car"
>>> was an Austin Healey, it was also an Austin of England car.  Exactly why
>>> the change was made in early 1955, who knows.  My guess is that by then,
>>> the Austin Healey name was such a success and established, that it could
>>> stand on its own...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> One man's opinion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Curt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 1:15 PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> And I still have a question to which no one seems to have a
>>> definitive answer: Why (not when) did "Austin-Healey"
>>>
>>> become "Austin Healey"?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've heard various theories including the one where the supplier made a
>>> mistake and the factory took them at a discount and changed the company
>>> name but that really makes little sense.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone *really* know the reason?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:11 PM John Harper <ah100register at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just a small point. There was not an issue of old stock because cars
>>> like the A70 Hereford and the A40 Somerset used them until they were phased
>>> out some time later.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 16:28, Ken Fleming via Healeys <
>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Very nice car. Appears to have good bones ! Great car to drive or
>>> restore.
>>>
>>> My car  160595 ,8/54 build also has Austin of England badge . Not sure
>>> where the change of badge occurred but  believe it was end of August . Also
>>> rear pods were added to BN1 about same time.Mine was late Aug and has pods
>>> and early badge. I’m certain during the change point they were using all of
>>> old stock before installing new badge.
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Eric--
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My car is #222333 built 12/54 and also has an "Austin of England" badge
>>> on the boot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:04 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow, very nice car. If that is indeed the original material on the seats
>>> it's amazing that it's held up so well.
>>>
>>> On 7/27/2020 12:31 AM, Eric Metzner wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi gents,
>>>
>>> perhaps of interst for some of you - Carmine red survivor, built january
>>> 1955 BN1, 16883 original miles.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some nice pictures can be found on:
>>> https://carrosso.nl/home-oud/for-sale/austin-healey-100-bn1-carmin-red.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Wears also "Austin of England" on the trunk lid
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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