[Healeys] Exhaust sound

John and Judy Carter jc9821 at msn.com
Wed Jan 8 12:37:35 MST 2020


I would appreciate hearing from those who can comment on the sound of the Moss Tourist Trophy exhaust system on their BJ8.

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   1. Re: Water Pumps (Michael MacLean)
   2. Re: Water Pumps (Michael Salter)
   3. Re: Water Pumps (Michael MacLean)
   4. Re: Water Pumps (Bob Spidell)
   5. Re: 100/4 Side curtains for sale (Alan Seigrist)


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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 19:05:45 +0000 (UTC)
From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>,  Michael Salter
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water Pumps
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 This one from British Parts Northwest has been available for some time.? I bought one for my BN2 a couple of years ago to replace the county brand pump that was installed during the rebuild of the short block.? Don't know that much about it, but it has to be better than County brand.Mike MacLean
British Parts Northwest Water Pump Uprated BN1 to BN2 - Water Pump - Engine Cooling - BN1-BN2 - AUSTIN HEALEY

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    On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 7:47:25 AM PST, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:

 As you point out Bob, a Zerk fitting with sealed bearings is a worry. I also notice that the plug in the body of the 100 pump is an Allen head and what's the bet that the heater nipple on that pump is required because the thread is not the unusual 5/8"? 16T.P.I. thread required by the original tap.I also notice that the 100 pump rad hose connector has a bulb end.
On the 6 cylinder pump I don't like the look of that short cartridge bearing which, with the load imparted by a "V" belt, will almost certainly have limited life because of the decreased race spread.?

Why do they insist on reinventing the wheel?

M

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:40 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:

Looks like we might have a solution to the bad water pumps, i.e. County,
that have been proffered by some:

https://www.ahspares.co.uk/blog/new-premium-austin-healey-water-pumps.aspx?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email

NFI, and I have no experience with them, but there's hope.? I don't see
the correct pulley for BJ8s, though, and they appear to have both sealed
bearings and zerks(?).
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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 14:40:53 -0500
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
To: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water Pumps
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Thanks for that Mike.
A question, did the brass tap for the heater pipe connection fit into the
thread where the brass spigot is on the pump supplied?

M

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 2:05 PM Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
wrote:

> This one from British Parts Northwest has been available for some time.  I
> bought one for my BN2 a couple of years ago to replace the county brand
> pump that was installed during the rebuild of the short block.  Don't know
> that much about it, but it has to be better than County brand.
> Mike MacLean
>
> British Parts Northwest Water Pump Uprated BN1 to BN2 - Water Pump -
> Engine Cooling - BN1-BN2 - AUSTIN HEALEY
> <https://www.bpnorthwest.com/austin-healey/bn1-bn2/engine-cooling/water-pump/water-pump-uprated-bn1to-bn2.html>
>
> British Parts Northwest Water Pump Uprated BN1 to BN2 - Water Pump - Eng...
>
> This is an uprated water pump from the original warm weather water pump
> for an Austin Healey 100/4 (BN1 to BN2)....
>
> <https://www.bpnorthwest.com/austin-healey/bn1-bn2/engine-cooling/water-pump/water-pump-uprated-bn1to-bn2.html>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 7:47:25 AM PST, Michael Salter <
> michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> As you point out Bob, a Zerk fitting with sealed bearings is a worry.
> I also notice that the plug in the body of the 100 pump is an Allen head
> and what's the bet that the heater nipple on that pump is required because
> the thread is not the unusual 5/8"  16T.P.I. thread required by the
> original tap.
> I also notice that the 100 pump rad hose connector has a bulb end.
> On the 6 cylinder pump I don't like the look of that short cartridge
> bearing which, with the load imparted by a "V" belt, will almost certainly
> have limited life because of the decreased race spread.
>
> Why do they insist on reinventing the wheel?
>
> M
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:40 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Looks like we might have a solution to the bad water pumps, i.e. County,
> that have been proffered by some:
>
>
> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/blog/new-premium-austin-healey-water-pumps.aspx?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email
>
> NFI, and I have no experience with them, but there's hope.  I don't see
> the correct pulley for BJ8s, though, and they appear to have both sealed
> bearings and zerks(?).
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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 20:00:14 +0000 (UTC)
From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water Pumps
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 If I understand your question correctly you are referring to the heater pipe tap to pump threaded connection?? I have not installed the pump yet, but here are a couple of pics of the pump showing the threaded nipple and the brand of the pump.? Anyone familiar with this brand?? The thread is a course tapered one.? There is a zert fitting on the side of the pump about halfway along the shaft for greasing, but no instructions on how often that should be done.? I'm guessing the heater pipe connection is direct instead of the original tap that was screwed into the pump.? Not clear if the tap that Moss sells will thread into this pump and I don't know if I want to spend $160+ to find out.? Is the tap totally necessary?
Mike MacLean
    On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 11:41:04 AM PST, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:

 Thanks for that Mike.A question, did the brass tap for the heater pipe connection fit into the thread where the brass spigot is on the pump supplied?
M

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 2:05 PM Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net> wrote:

 This one from British Parts Northwest has been available for some time.? I bought one for my BN2 a couple of years ago to replace the county brand pump that was installed during the rebuild of the short block.? Don't know that much about it, but it has to be better than County brand.Mike MacLean
British Parts Northwest Water Pump Uprated BN1 to BN2 - Water Pump - Engine Cooling - BN1-BN2 - AUSTIN HEALEY

|
|
|  |
British Parts Northwest Water Pump Uprated BN1 to BN2 - Water Pump - Eng...

This is an uprated water pump from the original warm weather water pump for an Austin Healey 100/4 (BN1 to BN2)....
 |

 |

 |




    On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 7:47:25 AM PST, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:

 As you point out Bob, a Zerk fitting with sealed bearings is a worry. I also notice that the plug in the body of the 100 pump is an Allen head and what's the bet that the heater nipple on that pump is required because the thread is not the unusual 5/8"? 16T.P.I. thread required by the original tap.I also notice that the 100 pump rad hose connector has a bulb end.
On the 6 cylinder pump I don't like the look of that short cartridge bearing which, with the load imparted by a "V" belt, will almost certainly have limited life because of the decreased race spread.?

Why do they insist on reinventing the wheel?

M

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:40 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:

Looks like we might have a solution to the bad water pumps, i.e. County,
that have been proffered by some:

https://www.ahspares.co.uk/blog/new-premium-austin-healey-water-pumps.aspx?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email

NFI, and I have no experience with them, but there's hope.? I don't see
the correct pulley for BJ8s, though, and they appear to have both sealed
bearings and zerks(?).
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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 12:21:15 -0800
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
To: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water Pumps
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Looks like the AHS pump to me.  And, why are they painting them black?!

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net> wrote:
>
> ?
> If I understand your question correctly you are referring to the heater pipe tap to pump threaded connection?  I have not installed the pump yet, but here are a couple of pics of the pump showing the threaded nipple and the brand of the pump.  Anyone familiar with this brand?  The thread is a course tapered one.  There is a zert fitting on the side of the pump about halfway along the shaft for greasing, but no instructions on how often that should be done.  I'm guessing the heater pipe connection is direct instead of the original tap that was screwed into the pump.  Not clear if the tap that Moss sells will thread into this pump and I don't know if I want to spend $160+ to find out.  Is the tap totally necessary?
> Mike MacLean
> On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 11:41:04 AM PST, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for that Mike.
> A question, did the brass tap for the heater pipe connection fit into the thread where the brass spigot is on the pump supplied?
>
> M
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 2:05 PM Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net> wrote:
> This one from British Parts Northwest has been available for some time.  I bought one for my BN2 a couple of years ago to replace the county brand pump that was installed during the rebuild of the short block.  Don't know that much about it, but it has to be better than County brand.
> Mike MacLean
>
> British Parts Northwest Water Pump Uprated BN1 to BN2 - Water Pump - Engine Cooling - BN1-BN2 - AUSTIN HEALEY
>
> British Parts Northwest Water Pump Uprated BN1 to BN2 - Water Pump - Eng...
> This is an uprated water pump from the original warm weather water pump for an Austin Healey 100/4 (BN1 to BN2)....
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 7:47:25 AM PST, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> As you point out Bob, a Zerk fitting with sealed bearings is a worry.
> I also notice that the plug in the body of the 100 pump is an Allen head and what's the bet that the heater nipple on that pump is required because the thread is not the unusual 5/8"  16T.P.I. thread required by the original tap.
> I also notice that the 100 pump rad hose connector has a bulb end.
> On the 6 cylinder pump I don't like the look of that short cartridge bearing which, with the load imparted by a "V" belt, will almost certainly have limited life because of the decreased race spread.
>
> Why do they insist on reinventing the wheel?
>
> M
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:40 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
> Looks like we might have a solution to the bad water pumps, i.e. County,
> that have been proffered by some:
>
> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/blog/new-premium-austin-healey-water-pumps.aspx?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email
>
> NFI, and I have no experience with them, but there's hope.  I don't see
> the correct pulley for BJ8s, though, and they appear to have both sealed
> bearings and zerks(?).
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:51:48 +0800
From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com>
To: Ken Fleming <ahmg at aol.com>
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100/4 Side curtains for sale
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I assume these are the later versions?

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:09 PM Ken Fleming via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

>
> I thought I would offer to list before I return to Uk. I have a new still
> in box blue 100/4 set of high quality side screens, of which I have another
> set. As compared to offering at Moss, these are about 200.00 dollars less
> then the Moss listed price of 900.00.  Free shipping in the US to list.
> Contact me off list if you have interest.
>  If no interest I will just return but thought someone might be in market
> and would appreciate the savings.
> Ken
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> Sent from my iPhone
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