[Healeys] Valvoline VR-1 20W-50 @ walmart.com

[Bob Spidell]

OK, did an exhaustive investigation--i.e. a google search--and found the 
following:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4026951/California_bans_sale_of_obsole

This is just some guy on the internet, but the info is more 
comprehensive than anything else I found, short of reading all the 
applicable statutes.  Makes sense, though, as I've never heard of zinc 
or ZDDP being banned, and I checked the bottles I just bought and there 
is no 'SAE API SERVICE' rating at all on them at all.  So, my hypothesis 
is that Valvoline pulled VR-1 from shelves in 2016 because it had no 
label or an SN or prior rating, making the oil 'obsolete.'  I haven't 
checked whether there is any VR-1 on the shelves anywhere in California.

At any rate, Wally Mart will deliver to your California home, for free 
(they even refunded me $0.12 they appeared to have overcharged).

Bob

On 9/16/2019 6:00 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:
> Got a link or other documentation?  A few years ago it got pulled from 
> the shelves of my favorite local parts store, and no one seemed to 
> know why.  Lots of rumors that California had banned it, but a few 
> months later it was back on the parts store's shelves.
>
> AFAIK, California has not banned any oil for ZDDP; it would have to 
> ban all the 'high zinc' additives, and all the other 20W-50 oils 
> advertising 'high zinc' (Brad Penn, lucas, etc.).  Last time, I heard 
> through the mill it was Valvoline's doing (possibly due to the product 
> being re-labeled).  Zinc can be toxic--any welder will tell you not to 
> weld galvanized--but it's main issue is that it fouls catalytic 
> converters.  Few, if any, new cars recommend 20W-50 oil (but I think 
> some Porshes spec 10W-60).
>
> Bob
>
> On 9/16/2019 10:59 AM, P.M. Pollock wrote:
>> Banned here in the People's Republic of California about two months 
>> ago (probably due to the high zinc).  It must have been an 
>> administrative ruling - it caught stores completely off -guard: one 
>> day they were selling it, the next it was cleared from the shelves 
>> and in the back room not-for-sale.
>>
>> On 9/13/2019 10:22 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:
>>> No, not ANOTHER discussion on the merits of any particular oil. I've 
>>> used this for years with satisfactory results, and was looking to 
>>> re-up my stash, but my usual source, RuralKing is now refusing to 
>>> ship to California (their cust. serv. wouldn't say why, but they're 
>>> a guns and ammo dealer and might be making a political statement as 
>>> apparently no other states are being boycotted).  Anyways, I found 
>>> it at Walmart and they had a '2-pack' for $8.76 ($4.38/qt), which is 
>>> about as good a price as you can get--'regular' price is over 
>>> $7/qt--plus free shipping.  I thought this might be a goof on their 
>>> website, but I took a chance and ordered; and the email confirmation 
>>> showed 24@$4.38 ea.  Maybe they'll claim a screw-up, and try not to 
>>> honor the order, but I thought I'd pass this 'deal' along:
>>>
>>> *https://tinyurl.com/y2e64xrg*
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>
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