[Healeys] Source for Split Rivets
Tim Davis BN7
tld6008 at mchsi.com
Sun Oct 6 15:14:37 MDT 2019
I bought some from David Nock a while back.
Tim Davis BN7
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2. Re: California Healey Owners (i erbs)
3. Re: Rearview mirror mount (Bob Spidell)
4. Re: California Healey Owners (John Spaur)
5. Re: Rearview mirror mount (Neil Anderson)
6. Re: Rearview mirror mount (Bob Spidell)
7. SU Dashpot puzzle (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
8. Source for Split Rivets (Harold Manifold)
9. Re: SU Dashpot puzzle (Kees Oudesluijs)
10. Re: Source for Split Rivets (Keith Pennell)
11. Steering box (Keith Pennell)
12. [OT-No Healey Content] Correlation vs Causation (Bob Spidell)
13. Re: Source for Split Rivets (Bob Spidell)
14. Re: Steering box (Bob Spidell)
15. Re: Source for Split Rivets (Neil Anderson)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 09:46:40 -0700
From: i erbs <eyera3000 at gmail.com>
To: "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" <thehartnetts at earthlink.net>
Cc: Ahealey help <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] California Healey Owners
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I got a $154 ticket in San Francisco for not having my front Oregon plate
on my car!
Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 9:33 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett <
thehartnetts at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> The following was reported in the United British Sports Car Club's
> newsletter as coming from the Association of California Car Clubs: "...The
> Legislature is busy finishing up bills for the year. Of note: Missing a
> front license plate has gone from a fix-it ticket to a $300 fine...".
>
> I have long thought that this was inevitable with all the red light
> cameras and all the bridges going cashless, no human toll
> takers, encouraging the use of Fastrak.
>
> I know there are a lot of Healeys without front license plates. Has
> anyone been cited yet?
>
> (The Other) Len
> Fairfield, CA, USA
> 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031
> 220,738 miles
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Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 09:49:17 -0700
From: i erbs <eyera3000 at gmail.com>
To: "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" <thehartnetts at earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] California Healey Owners
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It was my Ford Escape. I have a special interest yom plate on my Healey and
only one is required. Otherwise I need both plates.
BTW I bough my ford from a used car lot with no front olste or mounting
bracket.
Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 9:46 AM i erbs <eyera3000 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I got a $154 ticket in San Francisco for not having my front Oregon
> plate on my car!
>
> Ira Erbs
> Portland, OR
> typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
>
> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 9:33 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett <
> thehartnetts at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> The following was reported in the United British Sports Car Club's
>> newsletter as coming from the Association of California Car Clubs: "...The
>> Legislature is busy finishing up bills for the year. Of note: Missing a
>> front license plate has gone from a fix-it ticket to a $300 fine...".
>>
>> I have long thought that this was inevitable with all the red light
>> cameras and all the bridges going cashless, no human toll
>> takers, encouraging the use of Fastrak.
>>
>> I know there are a lot of Healeys without front license plates. Has
>> anyone been cited yet?
>>
>> (The Other) Len
>> Fairfield, CA, USA
>> 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031
>> 220,738 miles
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 09:57:09 -0700
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rearview mirror mount
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Neil,
Do you have a Moss catalog?? They have a pretty good diagram of the
mirror assembly (p. 112 on the latest catalog).? It's comprised of the
mirror, a nut plate, a couple screws and a bracket (the diagram shows
the bracket under the nut plate, but I think it's a fair assumption the
nut plate goes under the bracket--that's how i assembled mine).? On the
bracket, the two screws go through the upper part into the nut plate,
and the bottom of the bracket has a hole for the single, chrome-plated
screw and flat washer located dead center of the dash.
I'd send a link, but Moss doesn't have the diagrams online.? I'll get
some photos today if you need them, but the diagram is pretty
self-explanatory and, as you mention, I don't think you can see much
with the heater in the way.
Bo
On 10/6/2019 8:00 AM, Neil Anderson wrote:
> Can anyone provide a photo or good description of how the rearview
> mirror mounts on a BN2?? It may be the same for all Big Healeys, but
> my question is in regards to a late 100.? If you have the dash panel
> out on a car you are working on, you may be able to see how the mirror
> is mounted.
>
> On the way to Conclave in the Black Hills, the mirror on the BN2 we
> trailered to the meet?came loose from it's mount.??The mirror was a
> little loose before we left, but did not look into it then.? I felt
> under the dash and can feel a bracket, but cannot take a photo because
> of the heater controls that are?in the way.
>
> Does the bracket hold captured nuts or possibly a captured plate with
> threaded holes?? We didn't lose the chrome mount screws, fortunately.
>
> The car won first in it's class?in popularity voting, so I guess the
> missing mirror didn't affect voting.
>
> Thanks for any help.? Photo from Badlands N.P.
>
> Neil Anderson
> Northern Illinois
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 10:25:28 -0700
From: "John Spaur" <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'i erbs'" <eyera3000 at gmail.com>, "'Len and/or Marge Hartnett'"
<thehartnetts at earthlink.net>
Cc: "'Ahealey help'" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] California Healey Owners
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I got a fix-it ticket a few years ago while driving a Mitsubishi Eclipse. I quickly fabricated a snap on bracket, drove to the police station, had the ticket signed off, left the station, stopped and removed the front plate. I don?t have front plates on the healey or my daily driver. However, it does not matter if the car came without a front mounting bracket, in California it is the owners? responsibility to mount the front plate. If I am pulled over for that I plan on telling them that I just finished some body work and the front bracket is backordered. Don?t know if that will work.
John Spaur
?62 BT7
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 9:49 AM
To: Len and/or Marge Hartnett <thehartnetts at earthlink.net>
Cc: Ahealey help <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] California Healey Owners
It was my Ford Escape. I have a special interest yom plate on my Healey and only one is required. Otherwise I need both plates.
BTW I bough my ford from a used car lot with no front olste or mounting bracket.
Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 9:46 AM i erbs <eyera3000 at gmail.com <mailto:eyera3000 at gmail.com> > wrote:
I got a $154 ticket in San Francisco for not having my front Oregon plate on my car!
Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 9:33 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett <thehartnetts at earthlink.net <mailto:thehartnetts at earthlink.net> > wrote:
The following was reported in the United British Sports Car Club's newsletter as coming from the Association of California Car Clubs: "...The Legislature is busy finishing up bills for the year. Of note: Missing a front license plate has gone from a fix-it ticket to a $300 fine...".
I have long thought that this was inevitable with all the red light cameras and all the bridges going cashless, no human toll takers, encouraging the use of Fastrak.
I know there are a lot of Healeys without front license plates. Has anyone been cited yet?
(The Other) Len
Fairfield, CA, USA
1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031
220,738 miles
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Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 12:29:17 -0500
From: Neil Anderson <neilandcustom at gmail.com>
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rearview mirror mount
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Thanks Mike and Bob. That helps a lot. I didn't think of looking in the
Moss catalog.
I was thinking of making a threaded plate to mount the mirror. Now that I
know the plate is NA from Moss, I *will* have to make my own. I can use
transfer marking punches to get the hole spacing exact.
We never found any nuts or plate when the mirror came loose, so not sure
what was put on there when the car was restored.
Mike, the tires are Vredestein 165 HR15 Sprint Classics.
This BN2 that we took to South Dakota is not my car. It is owned by
a female friend of mine.
Neil
On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 12:00 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
> Neil,
>
> Do you have a Moss catalog? They have a pretty good diagram of the
> mirror assembly (p. 112 on the latest catalog). It's comprised of the
> mirror, a nut plate, a couple screws and a bracket (the diagram shows
> the bracket under the nut plate, but I think it's a fair assumption the
> nut plate goes under the bracket--that's how i assembled mine). On the
> bracket, the two screws go through the upper part into the nut plate,
> and the bottom of the bracket has a hole for the single, chrome-plated
> screw and flat washer located dead center of the dash.
>
> I'd send a link, but Moss doesn't have the diagrams online. I'll get
> some photos today if you need them, but the diagram is pretty
> self-explanatory and, as you mention, I don't think you can see much
> with the heater in the way.
>
> Bo
>
> On 10/6/2019 8:00 AM, Neil Anderson wrote:
> > Can anyone provide a photo or good description of how the rearview
> > mirror mounts on a BN2? It may be the same for all Big Healeys, but
> > my question is in regards to a late 100. If you have the dash panel
> > out on a car you are working on, you may be able to see how the mirror
> > is mounted.
> >
> > On the way to Conclave in the Black Hills, the mirror on the BN2 we
> > trailered to the meet came loose from it's mount. The mirror was a
> > little loose before we left, but did not look into it then. I felt
> > under the dash and can feel a bracket, but cannot take a photo because
> > of the heater controls that are in the way.
> >
> > Does the bracket hold captured nuts or possibly a captured plate with
> > threaded holes? We didn't lose the chrome mount screws, fortunately.
> >
> > The car won first in it's class in popularity voting, so I guess the
> > missing mirror didn't affect voting.
> >
> > Thanks for any help. Photo from Badlands N.P.
> >
> > Neil Anderson
> > Northern Illinois
> >
>
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Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 10:29:29 -0700
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rearview mirror mount
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Nice car, BTW.
On 10/6/2019 8:00 AM, Neil Anderson wrote:
> Can anyone provide a photo or good description of how the rearview
> mirror mounts on a BN2?? It may be the same for all Big Healeys, but
> my question is in regards to a late 100.? If you have the dash panel
> out on a car you are working on, you may be able to see how the mirror
> is mounted.
>
> On the way to Conclave in the Black Hills, the mirror on the BN2 we
> trailered to the meet?came loose from it's mount.??The mirror was a
> little loose before we left, but did not look into it then.? I felt
> under the dash and can feel a bracket, but cannot take a photo because
> of the heater controls that are?in the way.
>
> Does the bracket hold captured nuts or possibly a captured plate with
> threaded holes?? We didn't lose the chrome mount screws, fortunately.
>
> The car won first in it's class?in popularity voting, so I guess the
> missing mirror didn't affect voting.
>
> Thanks for any help.? Photo from Badlands N.P.
>
> Neil Anderson
> Northern Illinois
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 18:32:58 +0100
From: <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
To: "'Healeys'" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] SU Dashpot puzzle
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Here's one for the technoctats:-
You may have noticed my posts about swapping from two-shouldered to
single-shouldered dashpots. I did it because having two of one and one of
the other was irritating, not because I thought there'd be any changes.
So, I swapped the offending two and that gave me three HD6s, all with one
shoulder.
Car started on the choke, same as normal. Seemingly!
However, doing the garden hose in one ear trick revealed that the rear carb,
always single shouldered, was making less intake hiss than the other
recently added pair. Easily rectified.
I took the car out this afternoon. Started fine and ran well. But, if I
eased off, the revs dropped and the engine cut out. Also, there was quite a
lot of popping and f**ting on the overrun.
So, on my return, I gave the front two carbs about half a turn up on the
slow idle screws. This, quite small adjustment really, seemed to cure it and
even to raise the idle rather higher than I like.
Adjusted down quarter of a turn and all seems well.
Questions:- beyond the obvious - ie that changing dashpots does make a
difference after all - what is going on? Why was there a change?
(Plainly, I swapped needles and springs when I swapped dashpots so I've got
all the same in the carbs..the ones that I had all along).
Any ideas?
Simon
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 10:36:21 -0700
From: "Harold Manifold" <manifold at telus.net>
To: "'Healey List'" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Source for Split Rivets
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I am looking for a source for split rivets. All I can find on line is either
the wrong size or you need to buy 1000's. The size seems to be 1/8" dia x
1/2" or 9/16" long.
Thanks in advance ... Harold
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Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 19:42:17 +0200
From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU Dashpot puzzle
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Did you keep the pistons with the dashpots. They are matched.
Kees Oudesluijs
Op 6-10-2019 om 19:32 schreef simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com:
>
> Here?s one for the technoctats:-
>
> You may have noticed my posts about swapping from two-shouldered to
> single-shouldered dashpots. I did it because having two of one and one
> of the other was irritating, not because I thought there?d be any changes.
>
> So, I swapped the offending two and that gave me three HD6s, all with
> one shoulder.
>
> Car started on the choke, same as normal. Seemingly!
>
> However, doing the garden hose in one ear trick revealed that the rear
> carb, always single shouldered, was making less intake hiss than the
> other recently added pair. Easily rectified.
>
> I took the car out this afternoon. Started fine and ran well. But, if
> I eased off, the revs dropped and the engine cut out. Also, there was
> quite a lot of popping and f**ting on the overrun.
>
> So, on my return, I gave the front two carbs about half a turn up on
> the slow idle screws. This, quite small adjustment really, seemed to
> cure it and even to raise the idle rather higher than I like.
>
> Adjusted down quarter of a turn and all seems well.
>
> Questions:- beyond the obvious ? ie that changing dashpots does make a
> difference after all ? what is going on? Why was there a change?
>
> (Plainly, I swapped needles and springs when I swapped dashpots so
> I?ve got all the same in the carbs?.the ones that I had all along).
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Simon
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 17:45:42 +0000 (UTC)
From: Keith Pennell <llennep at verizon.net>
To: manifold at telus.net, healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Source for Split Rivets
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Harold here in the east Ace Hardware has an unusually good variety of bits and pieces? You might try them.Keith
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From: Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net>
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Sent: Sun, Oct 6, 2019 1:36 pm
Subject: [Healeys] Source for Split Rivets
I am looking?for a source for split rivets. All I can find on line is either the wrong size or you need to buy 1000's. The size seems to be 1/8" dia x 1/2" or 9/16" long.?Thanks in advance ... Harold_______________________________________________
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 17:50:15 +0000 (UTC)
From: Keith Pennell <llennep at verizon.net>
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Steering box
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Hello All!? Probably need to top off the steering box and idler.? What sort of "goop" are yall using?Keith
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 10:51:01 -0700
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] [OT-No Healey Content] Correlation vs Causation
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Came across this this morning:
https://www.fastcompany.com/3030529/hilarious-graphs-prove-that-correlation-isnt-causation
bs
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 10:53:08 -0700
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Source for Split Rivets
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They're out there:
*https://tinyurl.com/yy7lnl7l*
Looks like you'll need to buy $33 worth of table doilies, though.
bs
On 10/6/2019 10:36 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:
> I am looking?for a source for split rivets. All I can find on line is
> either the wrong size or you need to buy 1000's. The size seems to be
> 1/8" dia x 1/2" or 9/16" long.
> Thanks in advance ... Harold
>
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 10:55:58 -0700
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering box
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If your box doesn't leak (much), any good gear oil will do.? Penrite or
Corn Head Grease if it's a leaker.
On 10/6/2019 10:50 AM, Keith Pennell via Healeys wrote:
> Hello All!? Probably need to top off the steering box and idler.? What
> sort of "goop" are yall using?
> Keith
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Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 12:57:08 -0500
From: Neil Anderson <neilandcustom at gmail.com>
To: Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net>
Cc: Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Source for Split Rivets
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You might try a hardware store that is not a chain or big box store. We
have one locally that has a whole row of bolts-nuts-washer bins with
specialty hardware above that.
Why can't Moss order the correct ones from a place like McMaster-Carr? If
they need to order a 1000, then they will have an adequate supply for us
that need small amounts. You know that are going to mark them up, but at
least we won't have 980 pieces we don't need.
Neil Anderson
On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 12:36 PM Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net> wrote:
> I am looking for a source for split rivets. All I can find on line is
> either the wrong size or you need to buy 1000's. The size seems to be 1/8"
> dia x 1/2" or 9/16" long.
>
> Thanks in advance ... Harold
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