[Healeys] Jamaican

Wed Aug 7 16:12:39 MDT 2019

I would guess that the BN4 designation for the early 6 cylinder cars was already set while they were still working out the details of design.

BN was used to designate two seat roadsters and BT to designate four seaters, but since all of the paperwork had already been done using the BN designation by the time the left hand discovered the right hand had added two more seats they decided to make an exception.

The other way to look at it is to think that Austins didn't take the four seat configuration very seriously and that it was only a sales ploy not worthy of a new designation, both notions have some shred of plausibility.

If we are confused by all of this after the fact I think we should be aware that Austin's bureaucracy could have been equally confused while it was occurring.

Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jamaican

Well, not by my understanding.  By Webster the 100-4 and BN6 and BN7 would be roadsters.  So what would you call all the other models - convertibles?  Whether roadster or convertible had nothing to do with the number of seats for a big Healey.  Roadsters had a removable top with frame (100-4, BN4, BN6, BN7) and convertibles had the top frame attached to the car (BJ7, BJ8).  My .02

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From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jamaican

I always thought the 'roadsters'--mainly, the 'N' series--were two-seaters (by definition):
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=roadster+definition+english
Where are the back seats in a BNX?
Bob
On 8/7/2019 7:54 AM, Keith Pennell wrote:
Bob

Not sure what you mean by the 2+2s.  The convertibles and roadsters are both 2+2.
?????
Keith

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jamaican

Just happened to stumble across this today:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-austin-healey-3000-bt7-4-seat-roadster-13/

Seems to be a real price delta between roadsters and 2+2s

Bob

On 8/7/2019 1:59 AM, Peter Dzwig wrote:
> I must say, I'd never heard of one before. Looks very pretty and sounds
> to have been well and truly sorted. Like the Miura-like style, but I'd
> rather have the real thing (Miura) - sorry I know that's anathema here :-)
>
> As for price: It has a decent history, it would appear to have had a lot
> of work done by people who really know what they are doing and has a
> racing pedigree and is HRDC-registered. It's probably eligible for a lot
> of historic events.
>
> That being said a properly sorted Healey of similar vintage is getting
> to be quite expensive over here:
>
> https://rawlesmotorsport.co.uk/CarSales/austin-healey-3000-mkii-bn7-centre-change-2/
>
> Conclusion: It's over-priced but possibly not by that much. I would
> guess by about £10k. What distinguishes it is what has been done to it
> and it's proven performance and competitiveness.
>
> The other thing of course is that if you are going to race it, you'd
> better have enough spare cash to be able to rebuild whatever you break!
>
> As a matter of interest would the Mk1 register accept it? or for that
> matter AHCUK HDI?
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> On 06/08/2019 18:01, simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com<mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> wrote:
>> See:-
>>
>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1959-Austin-Healey-3000-Mk1-Jamaican-Historic-Race-Car-285bhp/183909256707?hash=item2ad1d88e03:g:~YwAAOSwWkddRoH8
>>
>> Looks OK if you like that sort of thing.
>>
>> Strange name for a car?
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
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