[Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 9, Issue 48 / Cooling issue
george mcharris
gmcharris at hotmail.com
Mon Feb 15 13:31:02 MST 2016
I had the exact condition with my BN2 until I installed a large bladed "Flex Fan". I got mine from Summit Racing. I think it is a GM product. The fan comes in several sizes . I used a 15.25" dia on the 100 that allows unuf clearance. You do need to install a spacer as the blades are so wide. Amazing improvement !!!!
George McHarris
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1. Re: sealing washers on side covers (Steve Gerow)
2. Re: Texas Kooler (mlempert at bellsouth.net)
3. Re: Texas Kooler (Steven Kingsbury)
4. Re: Texas Kooler (Team.net)
5. Re: sealing washers on side covers (Richard Collins)
6. Re: painting metallic colour (J. Scott Morris)
7. Re: get a load of this one.. (rrengineer.mike)
8. Re: Washer question (Auto Farm)
9. Re: get a load of this one.. (Tom Felts)
10. Re: get a load of this one.. (Alan Seigrist)
11. Re: get a load of this one.. (Bob Spidell)
12. Re: get a load of this one.. (Tom Felts)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 12:11:38 -0800
From: "Steve Gerow" <steveg at abrazosdata.com>
To: <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] sealing washers on side covers
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The Moss catalog shows the cup washer and rubber tube washer on the outside
of the cover.
I redid mine over 10 years ago with Hylomar on the cork gaskets and white
nylon sealing washers under the bolt heads. They've never leaked a drop.
--
Steve Gerow
Altadena, CA, USA
BN6 - 29D 3000 & 4 whl disc brakes
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 15:21:55 -0500
From: <mlempert at bellsouth.net>
To: <healeys at autox.team.net>
Cc: blkbt7 at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Texas Kooler
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Here's my story about a cooling solution. I bought my BN2 in '99 and endured
cooling issues until finally solving it in 2007. I had installed a Texas
Cooler with no measureable improvement. I installed a newly rebuilt engine
in 2007 and experienced the same problem. As long as I was driving - moving
at any speed - it kept the temperature okay, but the moment I stopped the
car, whether at a traffic light or worse, in traffic, I could look down and
see the temperature rising. If I was in traffic, it wasn't long before I was
in trouble.
I sent my radiator out to be re-cored high efficiency, or whatever they
called it. When I reinstalled it there was no difference. I then installed
an electric pusher fan in front, but still no difference except that it
seemed to interfere with cooling when driving. The pusher was removed.
After searching the internet for solutions, I came across the Flex-a-lite
site. There were many choices and I don't recall which one I ordered, but
can find out if anyone is interested. I got the fan, removed the Texas
Cooler and had to make two modifications; I had to trim the size down about
1/4" on each blade to clear the water return hose and I had to make an
adapter for the mount. I made the adapter from aluminum to fit over the
engine mount. I might still have the drawing somewhere. They warn no to
alter the fan, but I did anyway. It is important to make the changes the
same to each blade so it stays in balance.
To my delight the cooling issue disappeared. Apparently the flex fan sucked
the air through the radiator like the stock and Texas Cooler couldn't. Very
shortly thereafter I hit the road to Conclave in Burlington with my new
engine and cooling fan. Fingers crossed as Charleston to Burlington and back
is quite a hike. All went well and as expected, I ran into traffic on Rt. 95
going past DC. Came to a full stop and sat there in 95? heat. I was a bit
nervous about that, but to my amazement the water temp never went above 190?
if I remember correctly. In any case, I had no problems at all and ever
since.
Regards,
Mike L.
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From: Bob Brown <blkbt7 at yahoo.com>
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Subject: [Healeys] Texas Kooler
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Recently asked by a friend " Are there any Texas Kooler fans still
available? if so where?"
As an alternative, is there a equivalent commercially available alternative?
TIABob
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 20:24:10 +0000 (GMT)
From: Steven Kingsbury <airtightproductions at icloud.com>
To: Bob Brown <blkbt7 at yahoo.com>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 16:09:53 -0500
From: "Team.net" <lawrence.swift at gmail.com>
To: Steven Kingsbury <airtightproductions at icloud.com>
Cc: Bob Brown <blkbt7 at yahoo.com>, healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Texas Kooler
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Got the same fan from BCS; works really well.
Larry
> On Feb 14, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Steven Kingsbury <airtightproductions at icloud.com> wrote:
>
> Bob,
> I got a fan for my 100 from David Nock and I love it. It's not a Texas Kooler, it's a stainless steel fan that works really well. David has British Car Specialists out of Stockton, CA. NFI, just satisfied. And I can got back to stock any time I want.
> Steven Kingsbury
> BN1 #598
>
> On Feb 14, 2016, at 09:43 AM, Bob Brown <blkbt7 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Recently asked by a friend " Are there any Texas Kooler fans still available? if so where?"
>>
>> As an alternative, is there a equivalent commercially available alternative?
>>
>> TIA
>> Bob
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 23:33:34 +0000
From: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com>
To: Steve Gerow <steveg at abrazosdata.com>
Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] sealing washers on side covers
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I did the same thing (cork and hylomar) about 3 years ago and no issues since.
Regards,
Richard C
On Feb 14, 2016, at 14:11, Steve Gerow <steveg at abrazosdata.com<mailto:steveg at abrazosdata.com>> wrote:
The Moss catalog shows the cup washer and rubber tube washer on the outside of the cover.
I redid mine over 10 years ago with Hylomar on the cork gaskets and white nylon sealing washers under the bolt heads. They've never leaked a drop.
--
Steve Gerow
Altadena, CA, USA
BN6 - 29D 3000 & 4 whl disc brakes
Check out my galleries:
http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow/
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 00:01:32 +0000 (UTC)
From: "J. Scott Morris" <jstmorris at yahoo.com>
To: Andy Thorp <bce257 at yahoo.co.nz>, "healeys at autox.team.net"
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] painting metallic colour
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Good DayAndy;? You may find the attached summaryby Rich Chrysler and John Harper to be of some interest.?--Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives
On Monday, February 8, 2016 2:20 AM, Andy Thorp <bce257 at yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
In the not too distant future I'm hoping to finally get the BN4 off to the paint shop. As the final colour is Healey blue, I got to wondering how the boot (trunk) lid was painted originally given that the hinges cover part of the painted surface. Were they masked off? Were dummy hinges installed for painting? Was the lid painted off the car, if so how was the metallic consistency maintained?
Can anyone shed some light on this mystery?
Cheers,
Andy.
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 19:27:40 -0800
From: "rrengineer.mike" <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
To: Tom Felts <tomfelts at windstream.net>, Bob Spidell
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] get a load of this one..
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Sorry. Used to the Spridgets list where we can say anything we want.Mike
Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S? 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
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From: Tom Felts <tomfelts at windstream.net>
Date: 2/14/2016 5:25 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
Cc: healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] get a load of this one..
I'm going to assume that maybe someone else has said this, but to me these kinds of political BS comments has no place on this list.?
Tom
---- Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net> wrote:
=============
I moved here in 1971. It was a very different place back then.? Not as crowded and not as regulated in all aspects of life.? These days you can't keep up with all the nanny state laws being passed every year.? You can be a law abiding citizen one day and a potential felon the next.? Every year brings more regulations and control over almost everything you do.? Let's not get started on the gun control issue.? Now they can take all your firearms with no crime having been committed. All someone has to do is convince a judge you MIGHT do something to yourself or someone else.? If that is not the thought police, I don't know what is.? Yes, you don't have to smog a car made before 1975, but every year some lame brain democrat will introduce a bill to make ALL cars have to undergo smog either retro actively or be destroyed even though they do not contribute even 1 percent of the smog to California.? That bimbo from the San Francisco are Fran Pavley tried to get all motorcycles have to under
go smog tests retroactively back many years over a certain engine size.? Never mind motorcycles are not ridden as much or as often as automobiles or are a mall percentage of all vehicles on the road.? Luckily it was defeated.? It all started going down hill when the legislature in California went for being is session for six months out of the year to year round.? Yes Bob I do feel free to leave this quagmire of rules and control of personal liberties. Every one of my hobbies I will pursue when I retire is now being controlled by either the state of California or as in my radio control hobby the federal government being the FAA in particular.? The FAA wants to treat my 7 pound model airplane that does not fly out of my sight or place anyone or anything in danger like all aircraft and make me be licensed to fly it. of course the license is not free.? You have to pay for the government to control you.? I retire from the railroad at the end of the year and am seriously eyeing Arizona as
a retirement destination.? At least there I don't worry about? an new firearm law being passed every 5 minutes.Mike MacLean?
??? On Friday, February 12, 2016 12:52 PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
There is no 'tax' on installing K&N filters in California, and I've never seen any 'sticker' on the filters.? There is a sticker that comes with K&Ns--I bought one for my '96 Ranger many years ago--that you affix in a visible location in the engine bay that attests that the filter is in compliance with CARB rules.? We've had the truck smogged 8-9 times since then, with no issues.? See:
http://www.knfilters.com/streetlegal.htm
But, why let facts get in the way of California-bashing?? And, if 'Kalifornia' is so rotten, why did you move here (you aren't required to smog an out-of-state vehicle unless you are attempting to register it here; again, more of them pesky, fun-spoiling facts). And, none of our Healeys require smog testing in 'Kalifornia' (thanks Pete Wilson), and there are no mandatory, arbitrary 'safety' or 'roadworthy' inspections.
Feel free to leave California at any time.
Regards,
Bob
I had a K & N air filter on my German car when I took it from KY to Kalifornia. It did not have the Kalifornia special tax paid sticker on it so I was failed at the smog test.Rather than spend $350 to get the same thing with a sticker on it, I reinstalled the OEM system and passed no issue. I asked to be retested and the results were worse than with the K & N. Interesting what a little Kalifornia EPA mandated sticker can do: support the politicians ?
Regards,Richard C
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 07:13:54 -0500
From: "Auto Farm" <autofarm at wightman.ca>
To: "'Simon Lachlan'" <simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk>,
<healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Washer question
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Simon, we have been using the rubber and cup washers from the MGB for a long
time now on the two rear covers. You have to use a longer bolt, but it is
very effective for stopping the seep from the center bolt hole.
Cheers.Bob
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Simon
Lachlan
Sent: February-14-16 12:15 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Washer question
Not the most helpful topic title but here goes anyhow.........In a 3000:-
There are three so-called "Cover, cylinder side" on the RHS of the engine.
That is to say three little hatches through which one accesses the push rods
etcetc. The generator is mounted on the front one; the breather comes off
the rear one. So....
Mine have always seeped a little oil, nothing much but I decided to sort it
out. I ordered three new cork gaskets and the appropriate washers and seals
for the bolts that hold the covers onto the block. Somewhat to my surprise I
received:
1) 3 little bits of black rubber which resemble sections of rubber
tubing about 6mm long and about 4mm across. They are, it seems, designed to
go under the cover and but up against it to help prevent the outward creep
of oil. The bolts would pass through them and slightly squash them in order
that they fill the space around the bolt. See what I mean?????
2) 3 little flat fibre washers.
Now, it is these latter about whom I am confused. The tops of the covers has
a slightly "dished" area through which the bolts access the block. Into that
dished area go, on my car at least, shaped copper washers that are, I
suppose, designed to take up the slack somehow. But how will a flat fibre
washer cope with a washer in a dished area without being crushed, breaking
and thus rendered useless? Are the fibre washers to go under the copper,
over the copper or instead of it? Or could they be designed to sit between
the rubber and the inside face of the covers? ie they'd be tucked away
inside the covers.
These parts are not in the BMC parts book.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Simon
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 8:15:40 -0500
From: Tom Felts <tomfelts at windstream.net>
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>, "rrengineer.mike"
<rrengineer.mike at att.net>
Cc: healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] get a load of this one..
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Wow--how lucky finding a car list that talks cars/politics/religion/race/who is an idiot and who is not/maybe a little profanity---on and on. As difficult as it is to find a source for this type of stuff in todays world, maybe I should join the Spridget list.
---- "rrengineer.mike" <rrengineer.mike at att.net> wrote:
=============
Sorry. Used to the Spridgets list where we can say anything we want.Mike
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From: Tom Felts <tomfelts at windstream.net>
Date: 2/14/2016 5:25 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
Cc: healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] get a load of this one..
I'm going to assume that maybe someone else has said this, but to me these kinds of political BS comments has no place on this list.?
Tom
---- Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net> wrote:
=============
I moved here in 1971. It was a very different place back then.? Not as crowded and not as regulated in all aspects of life.? These days you can't keep up with all the nanny state laws being passed every year.? You can be a law abiding citizen one day and a potential felon the next.? Every year brings more regulations and control over almost everything you do.? Let's not get started on the gun control issue.? Now they can take all your firearms with no crime having been committed. All someone has to do is convince a judge you MIGHT do something to yourself or someone else.? If that is not the thought police, I don't know what is.? Yes, you don't have to smog a car made before 1975, but every year some lame brain democrat will introduce a bill to make ALL cars have to undergo smog either retro actively or be destroyed even though they do not contribute even 1 percent of the smog to California.? That bimbo from the San Francisco are Fran Pavley tried to get all motorcycles have to under
go smog tests retroactively back many years over a certain engine size.? Never mind motorcycles are not ridden as much or as often as automobiles or are a mall percentage of all vehicles on the road.? Luckily it was defeated.? It all started going down hill when the legislature in California went for being is session for six months out of the year to year round.? Yes Bob I do feel free to leave this quagmire of rules and control of personal liberties. Every one of my hobbies I will pursue when I retire is now being controlled by either the state of California or as in my radio control hobby the federal government being the FAA in particular.? The FAA wants to treat my 7 pound model airplane that does not fly out of my sight or place anyone or anything in danger like all aircraft and make me be licensed to fly it. of course the license is not free.? You have to pay for the government to control you.? I retire from the railroad at the end of the year and am seriously eyeing Arizona as
a retirement destination.? At least there I don't worry about? an new firearm law being passed every 5 minutes.Mike MacLean?
??? On Friday, February 12, 2016 12:52 PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
There is no 'tax' on installing K&N filters in California, and I've never seen any 'sticker' on the filters.? There is a sticker that comes with K&Ns--I bought one for my '96 Ranger many years ago--that you affix in a visible location in the engine bay that attests that the filter is in compliance with CARB rules.? We've had the truck smogged 8-9 times since then, with no issues.? See:
http://www.knfilters.com/streetlegal.htm
But, why let facts get in the way of California-bashing?? And, if 'Kalifornia' is so rotten, why did you move here (you aren't required to smog an out-of-state vehicle unless you are attempting to register it here; again, more of them pesky, fun-spoiling facts). And, none of our Healeys require smog testing in 'Kalifornia' (thanks Pete Wilson), and there are no mandatory, arbitrary 'safety' or 'roadworthy' inspections.
Feel free to leave California at any time.
Regards,
Bob
I had a K & N air filter on my German car when I took it from KY to Kalifornia. It did not have the Kalifornia special tax paid sticker on it so I was failed at the smog test.Rather than spend $350 to get the same thing with a sticker on it, I reinstalled the OEM system and passed no issue. I asked to be retested and the results were worse than with the K & N. Interesting what a little Kalifornia EPA mandated sticker can do: support the politicians ?
Regards,Richard C
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 21:58:30 +0800
From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com>
To: Healey list <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] get a load of this one..
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I felt his post, whilst political, certainly revolved around classic cars
and wasn't just some Trump/Sanders rant. I didn't see any profanity
either. He apologized, maybe cut him a teeny weeny bit of slack.
Speaking of California cars and politics - why is it that no one in
California seems to care that the State of California took 24 years to
build the East Bay span of the Bay Bridge... A job that would have taken
only 24 to 36 months in the rest of the US & world? Not a single breath or
sneeze about corruption in California, amazing! Maybe it would be good if
more people did speak up.
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 06:15:39 -0800
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
To: healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] get a load of this one..
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We care. And, don't get us started on the fact that when the span was
completed, it was defective. I'm not aware of any (proven) corruption,
just the usual bureaucratic inertia and backroom dealing you find
everywhere. There is a lot of obstructionism from greenies, who would
if they could do away with cars and roads altogether (a lot of our roads
are being put on 'diets,' where ato lanes are replaced by bike paths
wide enough to drive a semi through).
To answer your question, Alan, it just goes along with the fact the the
US is no longer a 'can do' nation. We're overextended--militarily,
economically, you name it--and one gets the feeling our citizens are
just hanging in, getting what we can while we can, and aren't interested
in accomplishing 'big things,' or even just fixing what we have. IIRC,
you live in or near China, which has a different model and much more
concentrated political control; it will be interesting to see if that
model works better in the long run (my bet: it won't).
And, while the problems are often national, California gets the bulk of
the heat because we're usually in the forefront of all change, for
better or worse.
Don't worry, we can handle it.
Cheers,
Bob
On 2/15/2016 5:34 AM, Alan Seigrist wrote:
> I felt his post, whilst political, certainly revolved around
> classic cars and wasn't just some Trump/Sanders rant. I didn't see
> any profanity either. He apologized, maybe cut him a teeny weeny bit
> of slack.
>
> Speaking of California cars and politics - why is it that no one in
> California seems to care that the State of California took 24 years to
> build the East Bay span of the Bay Bridge... A job that would have
> taken only 24 to 36 months in the rest of the US & world? Not a
> single breath or sneeze about corruption in California, amazing!
> Maybe it would be good if more people did speak up.
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 11:05:02 -0500
From: Tom Felts <tomfelts at windstream.net>
To: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com>, Healey list
<Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] get a load of this one..
Message-ID: <20160215110502.ZTJ1F.3957.root at pamxwww06-z01>
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I will---The best my lame brain democrat brain can:):):)
tom
---- Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com> wrote:
=============
I felt his post, whilst political, certainly revolved around classic cars
and wasn't just some Trump/Sanders rant. I didn't see any profanity
either. He apologized, maybe cut him a teeny weeny bit of slack.
Speaking of California cars and politics - why is it that no one in
California seems to care that the State of California took 24 years to
build the East Bay span of the Bay Bridge... A job that would have taken
only 24 to 36 months in the rest of the US & world? Not a single breath or
sneeze about corruption in California, amazing! Maybe it would be good if
more people did speak up.
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