[Healeys] follow up on emails of buyers

Tue Feb 17 14:45:52 MST 2015

G’day Rinus

Thank you for that. Very much appreciated.

Hoo Roo

Patrick Quinn

From: Rinus Sinke [mailto:msinke1943 at kpnmail.nl] 
Sent: Wednesday, 18 February 2015 12:46 AM
To: Healeys at autox.team.net
Cc: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au; sbyers at ec.rr.com
Subject: Fwd: [Healeys] follow up on emails of buyers

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Van: Hans van de Kerkhof <info at healeymuseum.nl>

Onderwerp: Antw.: [Healeys] follow up on emails of buyers

Datum: 17 februari 2015 13:37:20 CET

Aan: Rinus Sinke <msinke1943 at kpnmail.nl>

I read several errors in the previous posts about the 4000

There are three 4000 in existence  and one replica built by three friends in England in the 70s on a 100/6 chassis. This car is owned by a Healey enthusiast and lives in Belgium

The green car that belonged to the Cox family is factory build on a original BJ8 chassis that is widened by 6” in the middle.

After the design was approved there where six chassis made with the right dimensions. They started to build two cars leaving four chassis unused. When the whole project was canceled and the production stopped those two cars were not ready and DMH bought these two cars privatly and brought them over to Trebah where he lived.

DMH together with Roger Menadue finished these two cars, one was sold and they kept one. Bic used this car from time to time.

The Cox car was sold to Hans van de Kerkhof in the Netherlands and is now on lone to the Healey Museum in the Netherlands

The White car that was bought  from Arthur Carter by Alan Casavan for the Museum in the USA  was sold to Daniel Slatter. Although it was for sale in Germany it is as far as we know still owned by him.

The Roland car in Australia was involved in a bad accident and one of the remaining four chassis was used to restore this care. In resent years the car has been restored and got his original O.E. White colour back.

The  three remaining chassis are still known and one of them has in the meantime been built up as a rolling chassis with one off the special designed twin cam RR engines. (Whole new story)

In the Healey Museum we have the whole story with all the 4000 RR Factory paperwork.

I also want to mention that the previous message that the USA Museum has moved  to the Netherlands is wrong.

The Museum in the Netherlands has nothing to do with the previous attempt to establish the Healey Museum in the USA.

All the material that Alan Casavant collected was sold to a private person and is now locked away for the Healey world.

No items or persons from the “USA Museum” are connected or found there way to the Museum in the Netherlands.

On behalve of the Healey Museum,

www.healeymuseum.nl 

info at healeymuseum.nl  

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Van: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" <p_cquinn at tpg.com.au>

Aan: "'BJ8Healeys'" <sbyers at ec.rr.com>, "'healeys'" <Healeys at autox.team.net>

Datum: 17 februari 2015 02:18:30 CET

Onderwerp: Antw.: [Healeys] follow up on emails of buyers

Greetings

Actually there were six 4000 chassis built, but of these only three were
built into complete cars. These included the car that was owned by Arthur
Carter that was sold to Alan Casavant. He advertised it along with the
Silverstone a couple of years back. (Actually it was just a Silverstone, but
the V8 Cadillac engined car that features in so many of the publications)
Don't know where that 4000 is now. Then there was the Peter Cox car which is
now at the Healey Museum. The third car (which if my memory serves me
correctly was severely damaged many years back and rebuilt on one of the
spare chassis) was bought by Steve Pike and imported into Australia in 1974.
It is now owned by Peter Rowland in Melbourne.

Don't know what happened to the other two chassis, but I do recall that
another complete car was built in the UK about a decade ago. 

Hoo Roo

Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains, Australia

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BJ8Healeys
Sent: Sunday, 15 February 2015 12:21 PM
To: 'healeys'
Subject: Re: [Healeys] follow up on emails of buyers

Graeme, I had the following exchange earlier this evening with another
lister:
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Larry, there is some confusion in my mind about the identities of the three
4000s that were built (it's a little-known fact that I am also the Registrar
for the 4000s (winking smiley face inserted here on the original).

One of the cars (a white one, VIN 624W1628) was purchased by Allan Casavant
of Charlotte, North Carolina in 2005 from Arthur Henry Carter of Norfolk,
England who had owned the car since 1978.  Mr. Casavant displayed the car at
the 2005 AHCA Conclave in Winston-Salem, NC and he also drove it on the
annual mountain tour sponsored by the Carolinas AHC in August 2006.  I saw
the car at both events.  Mr. Casavant was the "sugar daddy" of the proposed
A-H museum to be established at the Virginia International Raceway, but he
had the misfortune to go through a nasty divorce and ended up having to sell
off his 4000 (and a Silverstone, and probably a lot of other stuff I don't
know about).  That's how the Healey museum ended up in The Netherlands
rather than in Virginia.  The car was offered for sale, and then I lost
track of it until I saw the video by The Healey Factory.
Is it the same car?  Well, both are white and have the UK (style)
registration number PWD 663F.  That was the license plate on the car when I
saw it, and the car in the video has the same plate.

Of the other two, VIN 460W1001 (UK registration TNX 65G, a green car) was
owned by Peter Cox of Gloucestershire and at last report was owned by his
son Joe, also of Gloucestershire.  The third, VIN ADO/1002 or ADO24/1002
(was white, now red, or maybe now white) is the car owned by Peter Rowland.
Previously owned by John Gray, England (offered for sale in the AHCA
magazine Chatter, February 1994), previously owned by Steve Pike, Australia
(1974 - ?), and before that by Frank Allenby, England (Healey Highlights,
December 1975).

It's very possible that the car at The Healey Factory is different from the
one that was owned by Allan Casavant.  But then, why do they both have the
same UK registration number?

If you can shed any light to correct the histories or any of the other data,
I would very much like to have it.

Thanks,
Steve 

Hi Steve, are you sure about your information on the 4000? I have coffee at
the Healey Factory every Saturday morning, and the only 4000 I know of being
there is now fully restored and owned by Peter Rowland, Rob Rowlands
brother. That car has been in Australia for a very long time.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Graeme Molony [mailto:molony at dodo.com.au]
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 7:51 PM
To: Max Byers; 'healeys'
Subject: Re: [Healeys] follow up on emails of buyers

Steve

Not sure where you got your information from regarding the Rolls Healey 4000
being imported from North Carolina into Australia as to my knowledge there
were only 3 ever constructed with 2 still in England and one here in
Australia

Unless another one has been imported recently the car restored by The Healey
Factory for the owners brother back in 2011/12 was originally imported into
Australia by Steve Pike of Marsh Classic Restorations in 1974 from the
United Kingdom and has had only two subsequent owners including Peter
Rowland. Details of this car and its recent restoration appear in an article
in my local clubs magazine 'Hundreds and Thousands' in July 2012

You will all know Steve from his Streamliner project car and his appearances
at Bonneville and more recently for his restoration of one of the original
100S - NOJ 393 which to my knowledge is still the most expensive Healey ever
sold.

While there have been a large number of BJ8's imported into Australia over
the past few years ( We still have only approx. 300  hundred including my
car according to Patrick Quinn's records ) and only 8 were originally
imported this has now come to a grinding halt due to the devaluation of the
Australian $ which is only equivalent to about $0.75 US

In fact the worm has turned as a few days ago I was in at the Healey Factory
and they were converting a BN2 with some 100M add-ons  back to left hand
drive for re export to a buyer in the USA. Go figure that

Cheers

Graeme  Molony
( BJ8  29 yrs )
Mt. Martha
Aust.

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