[Healeys] FW: FWIW

[Chris Dimmock]

You added "at present" in your last comment.
You did not say that before.
So Kees, who owns Daewoo?
Did you read the article that spawned this discussion??
Seriously.
Sincerely.
Chris

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On 14/08/2012, at 11:06 PM, Oudesluys <coudesluijs at chello.nl> wrote:

> Chris,
>
> I am afraid missing the point is yours.
> I just pointed out that there is no serious British car manufacturer at
present, all are small volume and/or foreign owned, e.g. Jaguar and Land Rover
are Indian owned by Tata and anyway are sold in fairly small numbers in Europe
because of reliability issues.
> Up to the 60's the UK produced a great number of popular and for the period
good cars, at least not worse than others, which sold well on the Continent,
e.g. BMC (Austin, Morris, Wolseley, Triumph, Rover, Jaguar etc.), Vauxhall,
Rootes (Sunbeam, Hillman, Humber, Singer). It all went terribly wrong in the
late 60's and '70's, largely due to the terrible quality/reliability of
especially BMC cars, but Ford UK, Vauxhall, Rootes not lagging far behind.
> Thus UK specced Fords are now made elsewhere, Vauxhalls are rebadged Opels,
Rootes became Talbot which ended up I think under Peugeot and disappeared.
> The Chevrolets sold in EU are mainly badge engineered Deawoo products, made
in Korea or perhaps Indonesia/India etc. as well these days. US Chevrolets are
rarely seen here.
> Subaru is of course a Japanese make however for the USA market a number of
models are assembled in the US, which apparently are less reliable.
>
> ""a Korean Corvette Mustang V8 convertible made by Subaru in the good old US
of A"
>
> might be less impossible than you think. At present Toyota is producing the
Toyota Aigo, Peugeot 107 and Citroen C1 (all practically identical) in Polen.
The Fiat Panda, Fiat 500, Ford Focus, small Mazda and I think one or two
others have the same platform and are produced from Polen to probably Brazil.
And there are many other examples.
>
> Cheers,
> Kees
> Op 14-8-2012 13:01, Chris Dimmock schreef:
>> Geez Kees,
>> You missed the point. Totally.
>> Seriously.
>> If your memory of the British car industry, and European car industry means
you can't spell Sunbeam, and innovation, then I'm lost at your comments.
>>
>> Or you are just taking the piss? Or ??
>> I'm confused? So Chevrolet is Korean?? Subaru is American????
>> Wow. I got the location of Texas wrong on this list once... So I'll give
you the benefit of the doubt...
>> BMC produced 50% of England's cars in the early late 1960's and early
1970's   And it exported to the commonwealth.
>> Who was in the top 3 car manufacturing countries supplying the Australian
market in the early 1960's?
>> You tell me me. It wasn't French, Swedish, Italian, or Danish. And it
wasn't Japanese. Or Korean. Or Yugoslavian. Not Russian.
>> I'll give you a hint...  This is a British car list...
>> Now England is undergoing a revival.
>> I'm lost as to what your point is.
>> Maybe I should just buy a Korean Corvette Mustang V8 convertible made by
Subaru in the good old US of A?
>> Seriously
>> Chris.