[Fot] Toyota transmission clutch question

[Tony Garmey]

The Morgan parts supply chain  have a kit for a Ford T9 , 5 speed . Much more compact than the alternatives.
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On Oct 23, 2023, at 9:29 PM, Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

 Jack;
The W58 requires the Herman Van Den Acker conversion kit (available from Moss) which includes a new bell housing and a direct acting concentric slave cylinder to actuate the clutch. It has a very deep overdrive 5th gear. Great for highway cruising but alas too deep to be really helpful in racing.
Used w-58s are getting hard to find and some repair parts such as main shafts are said to be not available.  I would suggest you look into the Miata 5-speed conversion instead.
Regards,
Phil

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On Oct 23, 2023, at 2:43 PM, Jack Wheeler <jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com> wrote:


Mike and Phil.  What is the Toyota W-58 transmission?  Does it bolt right up to the TR block, or is an adapter plate required?  I have a Morgan and have a number of friends who have the Plus 4 model, which used the TR-3/4 engine.  Most of them came with the Moss box, so folks are looking for a good 5-speed replacement.

I would not be surprised to learn that the W-58 is a bolt-up.  When I was racing, I used an electronic distributor out of a Nissan/Datsun B-210 (and a number of other applications).  It fit right into the TR-4 block, all I had to do was change the drive gear.  And then there's the Miata.  The Japanese copied a lot from the British.

Thanks.

Jack

On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 07:11:30 AM EDT, Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


A 3-4” guide pin in one of the bell housing bolt holes on the engine block and a Phillips screwdriver in a starter motor mounting hole helps a lot. Also putting the transmission  in gear so you can rotate the splines by turning the tail shaft helps as well. Works on both a W-58 and a TR gearbox.
Also, when you mount the pressure plate make sure the clutch alignment tool floats freely in the clutch.
Phil

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On Oct 23, 2023, at 2:07 AM, Mike Mehl via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

We have used a Toyota w58 transmission for several years.and have great problems getting the transmission and bell housing reassembled very hard to get splines to line up for a good fit.  Any suggestions

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