[Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011

[Tony Drews]

I've had no issue with brass compressing / creeping.  It's how I got my 
protrusion set.

- Tony

On 5/15/2023 5:19 AM, Philip Gott wrote:
> Thanks, Tony;
> Changing the figure 8 gasket thickness does sound like the easiest and 
> most precise solution.  Several others have made the same suggestion 
> to use brass or copper shim stock. I am leery of creep in brass or 
> copper. What is the experience you all have had? Does the creep take a 
> set after a while or do you need to continually retorque the head?  Is 
> there a similar issue with solid copper head gaskets?
> The responses of everyone are much appreciated. Brendon and Sean 
> Alexander have offered some steel shim gaskets if he has the correct 
> thickness (.010”).  Just hoping I don’t need to reduce piston 
> compression height as well….
> Regards,
> Phil
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 14, 2023, at 7:16 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> You can also make some custom thickness replacements for the figure 8 
>> gaskets to tune the protrusion.  You can get brass shim stock from 
>> local hardware store or McMaster Carr and cut out with scissors / 
>> snips.  I do separate O shapes, the siamesed cylinders don't really 
>> need the gasket combined into a fig 8 one.
>>
>> Decking the block on the wet liner engine makes this more fiddly.  
>> You'll want to verify piston height at TDC too.
>>
>> Regards, Tony Drews
>>
>> On 5/14/2023 2:07 PM, Steve Yott via Fot wrote:
>>> You can machine the cylinder seat the required amount.  I have a set 
>>> of mandrels I made and do this frequently on the lathe.
>>>
>>> Steve Yott
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Yott
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>>> Date: 5/14/23 1:02 PM (GMT-06:00)
>>> To: Friends Of Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
>>>
>>> Has anyone had experience with the cylinder sleeves protruding 
>>> .011”? The head has been staked per Kas’s book.
>>> I am trying to build an engine quickly (avoiding machine shop 
>>> delays) and have a block with billet crank and Chris Marx seal 
>>> installed. It has been decked already. Also line bored and cam 
>>> bearings and cam installed and timed. I want to know if I can 
>>> assemble this with confidence or if I am asking for trouble?  I 
>>> don’t anticipate problems with oil or water sealing as I will use 
>>> Hylomar on a .020” steel head gasket with the raised corrugating 
>>> around the oil and water galleys.
>>> The crank broke and a cylinder sleeve cracked in “old reliable” 
>>> during a test day.
>>> Please advise.
>>> Thanks and regards,
>>> Phil Gott
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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