[Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations

Brian Dolan bdolan1776 at gmail.com
Mon Jun 27 13:29:18 MDT 2022 

Winning the race isn’t everything

Thanks for clarifying.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 3:05 PM Curt Johnston via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> As I understand things, the Kastner Cup has not had many restrictions
> other than being a "Triumph powered race car".  Joe Alexander mentioned the
> rules are more common sense than strict regulations.  But please see the
> attached VRG rules on tires.  The options simply don't fit some cars, so a
> compromise was reached to allow cars to run that otherwise would not
> attend.  So hopefully this will increase the car count.
>
> With treaded grooved slicks a car is eligible for KCup awards.  But the
> car is not eligible for any other PGVP/VRG awards such as a podium
> position.  So basically cars with grooved slicks are running practice laps
> other than the two KCup races.  That's a pretty significant impact on
> someone's weekend.  If someone has an option to run the tires below, they
> will.  But if it requires purchasing new wheels and totally changing the
> set up of the car for one race, they likely wouldn't do it.
>
> Below are excerpts from the VRG tire regulations.
>
> Some examples of acceptable tires:
>
>    - Avon ACB10
>    - Goodyear Blue Streak
>    - Hoosier Street TD & Speedster
>    - Toyo RA1, R888- R888R, R1R
>
> NON-DOT Racing Tires: The non-DOT treaded racing tires listed below are
> approved for VRG competition:
> • Avon: ACB9, CR6ZZ, A29, H-003 and H-009
> • Goodyear: BlueStreaks, Vintage Sports Car Specials, G12 and G12A
> • Hoosier: Vintage TD, Street TD, Speedster, TDR, TDS, R35B, and VFF
> • Dunlop: L-series, M-series, CR65, and CR82
>
> Curt Johnston
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> On 06/27/2022 11:31 AM marty sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Slicks, fiberglass, what's next full SCCA cars? Just sayin....
>
> Marty, at the back of the pack but....
>
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> *Sent:* Monday, June 27, 2022 1:59 PM
> *To:* Jason Sukey <jsukey at gmail.com>
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> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations
>
> The FOT tries to rely more on common sense than rules.
>
>
>
> Joe Alexander
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> On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for podiums
> during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.
> Jason
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more people to race, while
> setting standards for who can podium.
>
> Am I missing something on that angle?
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Not good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, which
> typically requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s for
> this event.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup
> this year (39 as of today).  But it would be great to be at 40 or more for
> the 20th Kastner Cup!
>
> I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our
> group that typically run on slick tires.  PVGP has modified the "no slicks"
> rule for Triumphs.  You can run *grooved slick tires* in the Kastner
> Cup.  You can also run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will
> not be eligible for any awards for podium recognition.  For those that
> don't have tire options this will certainly help.
>
> So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever reason,
> please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.
>
> Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.  *After July 1,
> the fee goes up to **$645, so act now!*
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> Thanks.
>
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