<div dir="auto">Winning the race isn’t everything</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks for clarifying. </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 3:05 PM Curt Johnston via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:#333333"> <span style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">As I understand things, the Kastner Cup has not had many restrictions other than being a "Triumph powered race car". Joe Alexander mentioned the rules are more common sense than strict regulations. But please see the attached VRG rules on tires. The options simply don't fit some cars, so a compromise was reached to allow cars to run that otherwise would not attend. So hopefully this will increase the car count. </span>
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On 06/27/2022 11:31 AM marty sukey via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:
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Slicks, fiberglass, what's next full SCCA cars? Just sayin....
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The FOT tries to rely more on common sense than rules.
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The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for podiums during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.
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Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more people to race, while setting standards for who can podium.
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Not good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, which typically requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s for this event.
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<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:#333333"> <span style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup this year (39 as of today). But it would be great to be at 40 or more for the 20th Kastner Cup!</span>
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<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:#333333"> <span style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our group that typically run on slick tires. PVGP has modified the "no slicks" rule for Triumphs. You can run <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline">grooved slick tires</span></strong> in the Kastner Cup. You can also run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will not be eligible for any awards for podium recognition. For those that don't have tire options this will certainly help. </span>
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