[Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations

Mon Jun 27 16:17:20 MDT 2022

The winner of the Kastner Cup displays a certain sense of Triumph excellence. 
One must make a significant contribution to the hobby.
 One must be able to communicate how to win and not be beaten by equipment.
And one must be able to drive with a wit and on the edge...almost like there is no tomorrow. 
This measure reaches far beyond any rule.
It is more about individuals, cars, and teams.

Jason Ostrowski 
Friendly Ghost Racing
Triumph GT6 racecars

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> On Jun 27, 2022, at 4:54 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> tire rules are generally per the sponsoring club for the event, as I understand it.   VRG (and PVGP, who I believe uses the VRG tire rules) have never allowed slicks, so they had to make an exception here.  However, it’s not enforced, so cars have been seen that go through tech with treaded tires, which may end up being raced with other tires - just sayin!  Tech is basically a safety process, not a rules enforcement - we are supposed to be self-policing.  I think you’re seeing a pretty good reaction here because of the late timing of the announcement, and also because many of the Triumph racers at this event run a lot of races with VRG and other east coast clubs that require treaded tires.  It really does put the cars on an unequal footing (no pun intended) and all other things being equal, the car on slicks will be significantly faster.  We all know ways we could make our cars faster - wider wheels, spoilers, air dams, programmable ignition - but that’s not vintage.
> I for one am glad to see other interesting Triumphs show up for the event, even if SCCA prepared - just factor the tires into who gets the awards.  I personally feel that if you podium by 1-2 seconds a lap on slicks, you’ve lost your bragging rights.  
> Just my 2 cents.
> Scott
> 
> On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:21 PM, Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Just a question.
>  
> When I was part of the K-Cup in 2013 and 2019 there were cars on slicks in the K-Cup race.
> Has the rule been changed that slicks are not allowed anymore?
>  
> Cheers
> Chris
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> Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Jason Sukey via Fot
> Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2022 19:49
> An: Brian Dolan <bdolan1776 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Friends of Triumph <Fot at autox.team.net>
> Betreff: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Tire Regulations
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> The way I read it, treaded slick racers are still competing for podiums during the K Cup races, but I could be mis-interpreting it.
> Jason
>  
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Brian Dolan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Seems like a reasonable compromise to allow more people to race, while setting standards for who can podium. 
>>  
>> Am I missing something on that angle? 
>>  
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> Not good news for those of us who consistently run vintage, which typically requires treaded tires, and are not going to buy a set of R7s for this event.  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Johnston via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> Its good news that we have nearly 40 cars registered for the Kastner Cup this year (39 as of today).  But it would be great to be at 40 or more for the 20th Kastner Cup! 
>>>>  
>>>> I wanted to share news about tires that may have impacted some of our group that typically run on slick tires.  PVGP has modified the "no slicks" rule for Triumphs.  You can run grooved slick tires in the Kastner Cup.  You can also run these tires in the regular run groups, but you will not be eligible for any awards for podium recognition.  For those that don't have tire options this will certainly help.  
>>>>  
>>>> So if you're on the fence about attending this year for whatever reason, please consider joining a huge 20th Kastner Cup at Pitt Race.  
>>>>  
>>>> Regular entry fee is $595, plus $50 for the Kastner Cup.  After July 1, the fee goes up to $645, so act now!
>>>> 2022 PVGP Historics at Pitt Race (motorsportreg.com)
>>>>  
>>>> Thanks. 
>>>>  
>>>> Curt Johnston 
>>>> Kastner Cup Race Committee Chair 
>>>> curt.johnston at comcast.net
>>>> 707-249-1667 
>>>>  
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